RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Callisto RC1 experience

[Kim Moir <Kim_Moir@xxxxxxxxxx>]

No, please don't :-).  The platform
is respining a build for  RC1a for 

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=135107


Please just update the news page to
reflect that Callisto RC0 is available..not RC1. Someone already opened
a bug.

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=137696
Summary: Callisto RC1 annonced too early

Callisto is a release train that is
supposed to showcase all the projects releasing together, so it would be
best if we highlighted the Callisto release, instead of the releases for
individual projects.  It's too confusing.

Kim

"Ian Skerrett" <ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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04/20/2006 10:29 AM

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I agree that we need to fix
the link on the home page.   Unfortunately, I think I jumped the gun
on posting this, so I apologize for the confusion.
 
Could I suggest we just change
the headline and link to ‘Eclipse SDK 3.2 RC1 is now available’ and point
to the SDK download.   Once the full Callisto RC1 release is available
we can do another post.   Does this make sense?
 
 
 
 
Ian Skerrett
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[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John
Arthorne
Sent: April 20, 2006 10:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Callisto RC1 experience
 

That link on eclipse.org should really be fixed.  It is confusing
two things in one news item.  It says the RC1 build of the SDK was
available on April 13th, which is correct, but then it links to the Callisto
discovery page, which is *not* Callisto RC1.  I believe it should
be corrected to say that Eclipse Callisto 3.2 M6 is available, and link
direclty to: 

http://download.eclipse.org/callisto/releases/

Rather than going to the confusing Callisto planning page. Also, the link
shouldn't open a new browser window because it is navigating within eclipse.org.
 We've really got to keep it simple if it's being put on the main
eclipse.org page for the whole community to see.  We need to consistently
refer to Eclipse Callisto as the entire release train, rather than just
the platform.  Until the entire release train reaches RC1, we shouldn't
be announcing that "Eclipse Callisto RC1 is available".

"Ed Burnette" <Ed.Burnette@xxxxxxx>
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The eclipse.org home page says Callisto RC1 is "now available",
so I click on the link which goes to:
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/callisto.php

There's nothing immediately visible on that first page about downloading,
except the "Downloads" link at the top, which goes to the standard
download page (and the most prominent link there is Eclipse SDK 3.1.2).
I know that's not right so I keep looking.

I scroll down the Callisto page about halfway and find "Downloading
and Using The Callisto Simultaneous Release". It says:

                The complete installation
instructions are at the Callisto Update Discovery page.
                (http://download.eclipse.org/callisto/releases/)

I click on that link and it says:

                "This update
site provides the features of the Callisto Release -- currently the M6
version.
                 It requires that
you have at least the Eclipse 3.2 Platform Feature installed (the M6 version).

                For example, to
start with minimum foot-print, you can use the Platform Runtime Binary
appropriate for  your operating system."

The link it gives for the Platform Runtime is http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/S-3.2M6-200603312000/callisto.php
.

Well I know that's not right so I go to the standard download page, select
All versions, select 3.2RC1, ignore all the stuff at the top, scroll down
halfway and find the section on Platform Runtime Binary, and select the
link for the Windows platform (http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/S-3.2RC1-200604131718/download.php?dropFile=eclipse-platform-3.2RC1-win32.zip).

Firefox asks me if I want to save it or open it. I know I should not overwrite
my previous Eclipse install so I save it, rename my old version of Eclipse
out of the way, locate the new zip again in my downloads directory, right-drag
it to C:\Program Files, and select Extract to here (because I happen to
have WinZip installed). It creates an eclipse directory.

I start Eclipse, get some errors about unable to restore workbench (I know
this is ok because I was editing some Java programs before). Now I'm pretty
much staring at a blank screen (not exactly blank but it says Java perspective,
no icon, no editors, and has a blank stack of views at the bottom with
Search, Console, and Progress).

Well I happen to know that I should do Help > Software Updates >
Find and Install, select Search for new features to install, click Next,
select Callisto Discovery Site, and click Finish. The window goes away
for a while but I notice a progress counter in the bottom right of the
window. Then I get a dialog that says:

                No features found
on the selected site(s). Choose a different site or site category.

It says it twice for good measure (once in the title and once in the body),
and has an OK button, which I press. Now I'm back to my blank screen.

Now at this point I know I can go try some other discovery url or go back
and just get the 3.2RC1 SDK monster download, but how are normal users
going to "know" all the stuff that I know?


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