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Thanks Bjorn,
>From reading the Eclipse Policy and Procedure document it seems that a
pre-req may be classified as 'exempt'.
a. A pre-req may be classified as "exempt" by the EMO if the software is
pervasive in nature, expected to be already on the user's machine, and/or
an IP review would be either impossible, impractical, or inadvisable.
Exempt pre-req's can be approved for use
by the EMO without IP review. Examples: Windows XP, Sun JRE. However, an
exempt pre-req may be disallowed by the EMO at its discretion.
Dojo pre-req for COSMOS might fit into this clasification for the following
reasons.
It is expected that the user be connected to the web where DOJO is
expected to be hosted on the Content Delivery Network at
http://o.aolcdn.com/dojo/1.0.0/dojo/dojo.xd.js.uncompressed.js
Bjorn,
Is there an official process to submit a proposal to the Technology PMC?
If not what mailling list do I submit my proposal? Sorry for my ignorance.
Thanks,
Sheldon
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Regarding Harm's comment below about "there must be some rule about not
needing to clear operating systems" - he is correct, and here is that rule:
http://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/Eclipse_Policy_and_Procedure_for_3rd_Party_Dependencies_Final.pdf
The Technology PMC would be happy to entertain a proposal from the COSMOS
project about Dojo as per that policy.
As for the difference between the difference between an Eclipse Project's
website and code distributed by an Eclipse Project: yes, there is a
difference. Eclipse Members do not build products on top of the websites
but they do build products on top of the projects. Thus the IP rules for
the project releases are stricter than the project websites.
- Bjorn
P.S. Sorry about the delayed reply. While I read all the dev lists, I do so
in batches about once a month, so I didn't catch this email right away. (An
email cc'd to me as well as the list would get to me faster.)
Interestingly I mentioned the alternate approach to Sheldon because
at the time each release level of the dojo toolkit was being IP
checked and they change quickly, while in the meantime the question
of including it in the packaging was being discussed. I recall
Sheldon took the approach of making this configurable so you could
work with what ever compatible dojo variant and location you wanted.
Bjorn clearly has the say on this as your PMC lead and as one of the
few people that know the rules due to extreme exposure ;-),
Requiring an operating system I gather is simply considered
reasonable, as is the Java runtime, I believe you will find sprinkled
through the Eclipse.org website URLs to company websites, that may or
may not contain javascript, that are clearly not EPL. This part of
COSMOS has to be hosted on some web server before it will "function"
but I don't think COSMOS is expected to get IP approval for a server
or specify a specific dependancy on Tomcat. Even if DOJO is cleared
it relies on the browser to work and I don't think we are getting
firefox and IE cleared ;-). I think you can find some javascript on
the eclipse.org as well.
So there is some boundary that I could not find stated somewhere.
So my question would be about the criteria that says a URL on the
website can point to non EPL, yet a url in some javascript web from a
project requires IP approval. I can imagine a fuzzy discussion about
the functioning of a website versus the functioning of a website that
is the project product, but this may be something to get cleared up
at the foundation level since web interfaces are becoming of greater
interest to the Eclipse community at large. It seems the eclipse.org
website is the product of a project as well ;-)
COSMOS may be on the bleeding edge here.
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