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Re: [cn4j-alliance] Thoughts on the CN4J purpose
I'm not sure if too "many" profiles are going to be confusing. It's how we make them available. But having vendors implement a profile and add a few other specifications, effectively creating their own vendor-specific profiles might not be the desired way to go either.

On agreeing whether or not to evolve Jakarta EE specifications "too much": I don't think we have any choice but to evolve them in order to keep them valuable for developers. If they aren't, we run the risk that vendors are going to create their own versions of these specifications because their end-users aren't going to use the original specifications, effectively rendering them obsolete. If that happens, the whole reason that we have standards in specification falls apart and loses its value.

Edwin

On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 03:19, Ryan Cuprak <rcuprak@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello,
 I added my comments on the Google Doc. 

 Two things:
  • Slide 4:
    • Too many profiles. This will cause confusion. Now you need criteria to figure out which one to use and then worry about how to move between profiles. I like " à la carte” or everything but that’s my personal opinion.
  • Slide 6:
    • Why would winning new developers happen specifically with MicroProfile and LiteProfile? I can see some vendors wanting to push one or the other due to business reasons but I don’t think this should be a goal for CN4J.
    • I don’t agree with trying NOT to evolve the Jakarta EE specs “too much”. Why don’t wouldn’t we want to evolve the specs? It it isn’t evolving then people will think it is dead. 

 -Ryan Cuprak


On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 17:43, Scott Stark <starksm64@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Here are some initial thoughts on what CN4J needs to address and how that might happen. These are largely Red Hat's current views. The document is open to anyone with the link. Feel free to comment here or in the document. 

This will be a lengthy discussion that we expect to involve members of both Jakarta and MicroProfile communities as well as their respective committees.
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