Re: [cf-dev] OSGi support for Scandium, Elements-Connector

[Hudalla Kai <Kai.Hudalla@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Fair enough :-)
In this case I only have one more question: do we have a SNAPSHOT repository in place where nightly builds are put? This would make our work extremely more efficient since we wouldn't have to wait for the next milestone build of Scandium in order to make use of it as a separate OSGi bundle. My general approach would then be to include a declaration of the snapshot repo in the POM where I want to use the snapshots, but otherwise pull in dependencies on "released" versions (like the Milestone builds) from Maven central. Does this make sense to you?

Kai

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: cf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im
> Auftrag von Kovatsch Matthias
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Oktober 2014 20:37
> An: Californium (Cf) developer discussions
> Betreff: Re: [cf-dev] OSGi support for Scandium, Elements-Connector
> 
> Okay, I see. My experience with OSGi is very limited, thus I trust your
> opinion here. Despite the initial mail, the element-connector bundle is
> off the table, I guess, since it is always required.
> 
> For Scandium, it depends on the use cases you saw so far. If you often
> set up Californium without Scandium, and hence Scandium is rather
> optional, it truly makes sense to not have it as static dependency.
> With Scandium having its own OSGi manifest, it could also be used
> stand-alone (i.e., without Californium, for instance for WebRTC), which
> was the idea in the first place having a separate project. Since the
> pull request was already merged and it makes sense to me, I would keep
> it as it is now with Scandium in its own OSGi bundle. Less work :)
> 
> The only downside is that users need to be aware of two bundles and add
> both. If someday it turns out that virtually nobody uses californium-
> osgi without scandium, we can change to an all-in-one californium-osgi
> bundle...
> 
> Thanks
> Matthias
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Hudalla Kai
> > Sent: Dienstag, 14. Oktober 2014 20:21
> > To: Californium (Cf) developer discussions
> > Subject: Re: [cf-dev] OSGi support for Scandium, Elements-Connector
> >
> > Hmmm, that's certainly another option. So far we have been doing this
> > for element-connector. But you are right, we could also use this
> > approach for the scandium packages. However, this would mean that
> > californium-osgi would _always_ include scandium and, in particular,
> > it would also mean that the plain californium.jar behaves differently
> > from californium-osgi.jar in that it requires element-connector and
> > (optionally) the scandium.jar to work. But this, on the other hand,
> > could actually be the reason why we would have a separate
> > californium-osgi sub-module in the first place... because it is _not_
> > the same as californium.jar :-) Any other thoughts? If not, I'd
> actually rather suggest I include Scnadium in the californium-osgi
> bundle as well ...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kai
> 
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