Re: [cdt-dev] Two Terminal Views?

[Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx>]

Thanks Martin.

I can see the issue coming to a head when an RSE user wants to use the Local Terminal and then has the two Terminal Views visible to them. I saw it because we're using the old Terminals in Momentics and I was looking at switching to the new ones.

I agree that all things Terminal should be in one project, whether it's in TCF or TM, either way. We can move committers around. I'd prefer to hear Greg Watson and the TM committer's view on this. But I'd be OK if we moved it to TCF.

As for doing this in the Luna SR or wait until Mars, it highlights how bad it is we only release once a year. I don't want to wait a whole year for this. But then it's not really that big of a problem. If we do decide to move everything to TCF, we could start the move review now and have it all combined with proper package names by one of the Luna SRs. We can leave the old code in TM for those who still depend on it. But let's hear from the TM folk first.

Doug.

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Subject: Re: [tm-dev] Two Terminal Views?

Hi Doug,

 

The “Legacy Terminal” is in some of the packages (I know about JEE), the “TCF Terminal” is in no package so far.

 

I think we should get rid of the “Legacy Terminal” from TM since the TCF Terminal provides 100% of the features by now, and much more:

-          Local Terminal Support (also on Windows)

-          Automatic reconnect on restart (cool for serial, telnet & ssh)

-          History of previous SSH / Telnet connections

-          Drag-and-drop of panes between multi-instance views

 

I assume we can make such a “get rid of” change only in Luna+1 == Mars, Luna SR won’t do it right ?

 

While we’re at it, it would be good to get the “TM Terminal Widget” restructured from TM into TCF since that’s where the active committers are.

This would arguably introduce a dependency RSE -> TCF , but it would make our lives in TCF a lot easier.

 

Thoughts ?

 

Thanks,

Martin

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From: tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 11:19 PM
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Subject: [tm-dev] Two Terminal Views?

 

Hey gang, in case you missed my tweet today,

 

Need to be careful to open the right Terminal View. Why do this to our poor users? #uxmatters pic.twitter.com/iXeMfoKMK3

 

I somewhat remember this being discussed, but can we get rid of one of these? Does Eclipse really need two Terminal views on the release train, especially when they have the same name in the Open View dialog. I don't mind getting rid of the RSE one if the TCF one is better but let's make a decision here and resolve this.

 

Thanks,

Doug