Hi Bob,
yes I agree totally with you. (sorry for my bad English).
What I meant is that Eclipse is an open IDE which allows us to
combine those tools we need for enterprise development. And
developers do this in many ways. For example we use BPMN2,
Java/Debugger and Maven to build our artifacts. We use also JUnit
Tests to verify our models during the design phase. This works
great. But in addition we use some other smaller plug-ins e.g. to
generate our business reports or to hot-deploy our web fragments
(jsf/css/html/_javascript_) into WildFly. I would see it as an
disadvantage to switch between different tools.
The idea to use a complete web-based BPM suite sounds great on the
first look. But the concept breaks in the moment when the
developer needs additional tools which are not part of such a
suite. The Eclipse IDE did not restrict the developer because he
can combine any plug-in he need.
And I think this is also an advantage to the customers as they are
not restricted in using there tools (Plug-ins) together with BPMN
in one IDE.
And my fear is that by focusing on a web based bpm suite,
customers will be run into a lock-in scenario, where they are no
longer able to solve there problems in the way they like, only
because they are missing a small plug-in. For example we would no
longer be able to provide our customers with a custom-JUnit Test,
to allow them to verify if there BPMN models are fulfilling the
need of the target platform.
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Ralph
On 06.03.2016 00:13, Bob Brodt wrote:
Thanks for the feedback guys. Ralph, I'm not sure
where you were going with your argument, but I can completely
understand the desirability of a complete web-based BPM suite in
a, for example, collaborative process design effort. That said,
there are things that I feel are difficult to achieve when
developing client code for an embedded BPMN process engine like
jBPM, such as Java coding and debugging. This is where I feel
the Eclipse IDE (or any other thick-client java IDE for that
matter) excel.
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