Hi All,
I am looking for a good Academic project that
would give good fruits to Aperi. I had a look into the academic projects listed in the Aperi site and was talking to few people in the group. Though I got good replies and
data points, I would like to roll this out in the main mailing list to get a greater access to all folks who are involved in Aperi project.
Kindly note that the project duration is
of four month and the people who are going to develop the project have very minimal
exposure to SAN / Storage domain. Currently they are reading about SAN, Storage
Management technologies (CIM/WBEM). I am guiding them in understanding the SAN,
various technologies of Storage Management, etc.
It would be of great help and support for
us if you can help to move forward.
I have attached the entire mail thread from
the very beginning below for your reference.
Thanks,
Vijay S.
From: Todd Singleton
[mailto:toddsing@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007
11:26 PM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan,
TLS-Chennai
Cc: Ramani R Routray; Vijayprasad
Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Subject: RE: Query about academic
project ideas
Hi Vijay,
let's
keep this conversation rolling on the main mailing list. In that way,
you'll have greater access to folks that can help your project. Perhaps
you can re-introduce your situation in an email to. Then we can go from
there. I spoke with the Aperi team lead, and this was his feedback to me.
Todd
Singleton
Software Engineer, Tivoli,
IBM
Menlo Park, CA
email: toddsing@xxxxxxxxxx
"Vijayprasad Srinivasan,
TLS-Chennai" <vijayprasads@xxxxxx>
09/11/2007 08:39 AM
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To
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Ramani R Routray/Almaden/IBM@IBMUS
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cc
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Todd Singleton/San Jose/IBM@IBMUS,
"Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai" <vijayprasads@xxxxxx>
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Hi
Ramani Routray,
Please let me know your thoughts on my reply /
other ideas. From the
document I understand that HBA, Array and other
profiles are already
implemented.
It would be really great and of great help if you
can suggest any other
ideas on this front.
Thanks,
Vijay S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ramani R Routray
[mailto:routrayr@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Fri 9/7/2007 12:17 AM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Cc: Todd Singleton
Subject: RE: Query about academic project ideas
Hi Vijay,
This paper gives an overview of SAN Simulator
project:
(See attached file: ROUTRAY-iSAN.pdf)
regards,
Ramani R. Routray
IBM Almaden Research Center
Tel: (408)-927-3559, Email : routrayr@xxxxxxxxxx
"Vijayprasad
Srinivasan,
TLS-Chennai"
To
<vijayprasads@hcl Ramani R
Routray/Almaden/IBM@IBMUS
.in>
cc
Todd Singleton/San
Jose/IBM@IBMUS,
09/06/2007 11:33 "Vijayprasad
Srinivasan,
AM
TLS-Chennai"
<vijayprasads@xxxxxx>
Subject
RE: Query about academic project
Hi Ramani Routray,
Thanks a lot. I understand your concerns. If I
understand correctly,
there
are some devices needed to be simulated. Is
simulation here means a
device
simulator and a provider. Is it possible to write
simulators by
understanding the device functionalities? If yes,
then I may need the
functional specification of the device.
It would be great if you can share the list of
devices that you are
planning to simulate. I believe small
devices/softwares like iSCSI
Target
and Initiator can be simulated easily with out a
real device in place.
Here
are some of the probables which you may be
interested.
1. Implementation of a SMIS profile like Server,
HBA, iSCSI target, only
if
they are not in place already.
2. Implementation of DMTF profiles like Software
Inventory, Asset, etc.
3. Any work with SMASH / XAM.
Kindly note that I have very little knowledge in
SAN Simulator / ISAN
and
also in Aperi project. I am bit worried whether
the above list may suit
Aperi/ISAN or not. Also I have prepared this list
keeping in mind that
we
have little time as the project period. But these
guys are really
interested and willing to extend their work and
share their time even
after
the closure of the project period.
I welcome if you can suggest us any other
projects, just in case that we
need the SAN devices in place for this project.
I would request you to share the device agent that
you are referring in
your mail. This would help them to understand more
about their work.
Thanks,
Vijay S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ramani R Routray [mailto:routrayr@xxxxxxxxxx.]
Sent: Thu 9/6/2007 10:27 PM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Cc: Todd Singleton
Subject: RE: Query about academic project ideas
Hi Vijay,
Sorry for the late response. I am travelling this
week.
Was planning to discuss with Todd about the future
course of action,
when I
am back next monday.
Since, you don't have access to storage hardware -
I am not sure, what
wud
be the simulation scenario. I can make a snapshot
of a device CIM agent
using SAN Simulator tool and send you. But, they
would be IBM devices
and
we already have simulated those devices. Pls. let
me know - what you
think.
regards,
Ramani R. Routray
IBM Almaden Research Center
Tel: (408)-927-3559, Email : routrayr@xxxxxxxxxx
"Vijayprasad
Srinivasan,
TLS-Chennai"
To
<vijayprasads@hcl Ramani R
Routray/Almaden/IBM@IBMUS
.in>
cc
Todd Singleton/San Jose/IBM@IBMUS
09/06/2007 09:43
Subject
AM
RE: Query about academic project
ideas
Hi Ramani Routray,
Hope you would have missed this mail.
Thanks,
Vijay S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:00 AM
To: Ramani R Routray
Cc: Dave Wolfe; Todd Singleton; Vijayprasad
Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Subject: RE: Query about academic project ideas
Hi Ramani Routray,
Yes. You got to the point. Please find my reply
inline in the below
mail.
Please let me know if you need any other details.
These students are really interested in this
project and particularly in
Storage domain. I believe that they can excel and
provide us a good
deliverable at the end.
Thanks,
Vijay S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ramani R Routray
[)mailto:routrayr@xxxxxxxxxx.]
Sent: Tue 9/4/2007 10:44 PM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Cc: Dave Wolfe; Todd Singleton; Vijayprasad
Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Subject: RE: Query about academic project ideas
Hi Vijay,
Based on your description, what I understand is :
you would like to
guide
the final year project based Aperi SAN Simulator
for three undergrad
BTech
students. We would be happy to collaborate and get
you started. Just
wanted
to check few things from you.
- What would your project
timeline (start and end time) ?
[Vijay] Actually the
project period is of 3-4 months that spans
between dec to march end. But their department
feels it as short time to
do a project so they are starting well ahead. They want
to decide the project and the design. So in this
case, timeline starts
next
week and ends by Jan end (Possibly this can extend to
Feb 2 week, if required. But I cant guarantee that
as of now).
- Will you have access to any
real SAN or Storage Subsystem ?
[Vijay] No. They dont
have any real SAN or Storage subsystem.
- Do the students have basic
background of SAN, Storage
Management, CIM, WBEM etc.. ?
[Vijay]. No. Actually I
have started guiding them and teaching
all these technologies. The process is on its way.
regards,
Ramani R. Routray
IBM Almaden Research Center
Tel: (408)-927-3559, Email : routrayr@xxxxxxxxxx
"Vijayprasad
Srinivasan,
TLS-Chennai"
To
<vijayprasads@hcl Todd Singleton/San
Jose/IBM@IBMUS
.in>
cc
Dave Wolfe/Portland/IBM@IBMUS,
09/04/2007 09:36 Ramani R
Routray/Almaden/IBM@IBMUS,
AM
"Vijayprasad Srinivasan,
TLS-Chennai"
<vijayprasads@xxxxxx>
Subject
RE: Query about academic project
ideas
Hi Todd,
Thanks a lot.
Hi Ramani Routray,
It would be great if you can give us the details
that I have asked in
the
below mail. I have asked for few more days in time.
Thanks a lot.
Cheers,
Vijay S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Singleton
[?mailto:toddsing@xxxxxxxxxx..]
Sent: Tue 9/4/2007 9:34 PM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Cc: Dave Wolfe; Vijayprasad Srinivasan,
TLS-Chennai; Ramani R Routray
Subject: RE: Query about academic project ideas
Vijay,
I have included Romani Routray on this email as he
may be able to
provide
better guidance to suit your immediate needs.
Todd Singleton
Software Engineer, Tivoli, IBM
Menlo
Park, CA
email: toddsing@xxxxxxxxxx
"Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai"
<vijayprasads@xxxxxx>
09/01/2007 07:41 AM
To
Todd Singleton/San Jose/IBM@IBMUS, Dave
Wolfe/Portland/IBM@IBMUS
cc
"Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai"
<vijayprasads@xxxxxx>
Subject
RE: Query about academic project ideas
Hi Dave & Todd,
Sorry for the broken mail. Please read the
complete mail below.
Thanks,
Vijay S.
From: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 8:07 PM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai; 'Todd Singleton';
'Dave Wolfe'
Subject: RE: Query about academic project ideas
Hi Dave & Todd,
I have joined the Aperi-Dev community with my
personal mail id
(srinivas.vprasad@xxxxxxxxx) few days back.
It would be nice if you can respond to the below
mail. It seems that
they
need to show case by September 4. It would be
really helpful if you can
get back to us.
Please let me know what is the right time to talk
to you? Also please
let
me know your contact details.
Thanks,
Vijay S.
From: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:21 PM
To: 'Todd Singleton'; Dave Wolfe
Cc: 'Raj Kumar'; 'nivetha_srini@xxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: Query about academic project ideas
Hi Dave & Todd,
Thanks a lot. Yes I will join the Aperi-dev
community but from my
personal
email id.
As I have told before in the mail, this enquiry is
for my cousin. There
are three members who are interested in doing this
work. It is something
like this. Every final year student has to do a
project and they were
asking my help. I came to know about the Academic
projects offered in
Aperi community. I was very happy to see project
offering and I asked
them
to go for it. Now they are in way of getting a go
ahead from their
department. They have to show case a rough-cut
presentation about the
project work and they are in need of the details.
So kindly let us know
the device name at least which needs to be
simulated. They have a
limited
time as their project period. I will be guiding
them through out the
project period by explaining about Storage
network, reviewing their
work,
guiding since they all are fresher and don?t have
much exposure to
Storage
Industry. Please let me know is this fine. I have
marked them in CC.
Thanks,
Vijay S.
From: Todd Singleton [mailto:toddsing@xxxxxxxxxx..]
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 1:55 AM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Cc: Dave Wolfe
Subject: Re: Query about academic project ideas
Vijay,
Dave forwarded your email to me. Perhaps I
can be of help to you. Here
are two documents about the SAN Simulator.
We welcome participation:
The code has just been donated from IBM to the
Aperi open source
community. Therefore, we will spend the next
few weeks getting the code
incorporated into the community. The best
way for you to participate is
to sign up for the development forum and begin
chiming in on the
discussions. From here, we can get you more
and more involved. Yes, we
do need support for additional devices.
Here is how to get involved on the development
forum:
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/aperi-dev
Look forward to working with you.
Todd Singleton
Software Engineer, Tivoli, IBM
Menlo
Park, CA
email: toddsing@xxxxxxxxxx
"Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai"
<vijayprasads@xxxxxx>
08/18/2007 09:55 AM
To
Dave Wolfe/Portland/IBM@IBMUS
cc
"Aperi News"
<aperi-news@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject
RE: [aperi-news] Query about academic project
ideas
Hi Dave,
Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation. I
apologize for the late
reply.
I am interested in Simulators. It would be great
if you can share the
details about the work that is already completed
and how to extend the
existing framework for new devices. Also please
let me know the list of
devices that you look for in short time. In this
case, I hope you will
be
sharing the specification that details the
requirements that should be
met
by the simulated device. Basically I am looking
for functional
specification which details how the simulated device
should work and
expected operations list with expected results.
It would be really nice if you can share any
design documents that would
make me to understand more about the device
simulation framework.
Thanks,
Vijay S.
From: Dave Wolfe [.mailto:dwolfe@xxxxxxxxxx..]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:03 AM
To: Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai
Cc: aperi-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx; Aperi News
Subject: RE: [aperi-news] Query about academic
project ideas
> I would like to understand more about the
requirements of Storage
Network Environment Simulator and Automated
Testing environment.
A major issue in development and testing of
Storage Resource Management
systems is the availability of test hardware. CPUs
may be cheap and
plentiful these days, but intelligent, high
capacity storage subsystems
and fiber channel switches are still premium
devices. This is a
particular
problem in open source development where
individual developers and their
respective institutions may not have the resources
to obtain access to
expensive gadgets.
My vision is a completely self contained simulated
SAN environment
suitable for development and testing in a purely
virtual setting. Such a
setup would be suitable for unit testing,
pre-checkin smoke testing, and
nightly build testing via an automated test suite.
The elements of such a system would be as follows:
1) simulated SMI-S devices (providers) created via
a device simulation
framework capable of capturing the state of an
existing device or
creating
a device 'from scratch' via a specification
language. This is in the
works
already, but work is needed to add more devices,
etc.
2) Simulated in-band and out-of-band devices and a
fully simulated SAN
topology.This would build upon and work in
addition to the SMI-S device
simulator to provide a complete end-to-end
simulation for topology and
datapath analysis.
3) For automated testing: 'headless' install, and
a test harness for
running and analyzing test results unattended
4) A fully functioning CLI to drive the product
through its major
capabilities without the GUI.
And, of course, a battery of tests to run in that
test harness. Three
sets
I think: 1) quick smoke test for verification, 2)
Nightly test 2-3 hours
worth, 3) Stress and/or comprehensive test 24-48
hours worth.
Dave Wolfe/Portland/IBM (dwolfe@xxxxxxxxxx) TL:
775-3376 Office:
503-578-3376 Personal: 503-329-3960
UI Technical Lead, Aperi Open Source Storage
Management
http://www.eclipse.org/aperi
"A good composer does not imitate; he
steals." - Igor Stravinsky
"Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai"
<vijayprasads@xxxxxx>
08/05/2007 09:40 PM
To
"Aperi News"
<aperi-news@xxxxxxxxxxx>
cc
<aperi-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Dave
Wolfe/Portland/IBM@IBMUS
Subject
RE: [aperi-news] Query about academic project
ideas
Hi Dave,
Thanks a lot for the prompt reply. Please have a
look at my
clarification
inline.
I would like to understand more about the
requirements of Storage
Network
Environment Simulator and Automated Testing
environment.
Thanks,
Vijay S.
From: aperi-news-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:aperi-news-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx..] On
Behalf Of Dave Wolfe
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:36 AM
To: Aperi News
Cc: aperi-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [aperi-news] Query about academic
project ideas
Hi Vijay,
With respect to the web page:
http://www.eclipse.org/aperi/Community-Building/Aperi_Academic_Project_I
deas.htm.
and to answer your questions:
1) [What are all the eligibility criteria for
taking up a project?] Any
one who has the interest and sufficient resources
to participate is
welcome to work on these projects.
2) [What is the expected duration of
contribution?] Depends on the
scope,
complexity, and pervasiveness of the contribution.
As with any open
source
project we welcome on going support.
3) [How Aperi Project will provide a certificate
for the contribution?]
Like other Eclipse projects, Aperi does not have a
certification
program.
We are friendly with SNIA which does offer
certifications for storage
administration. Seehttp://www.snia.org/education/certification/
for more
info. Is this the sort of certification you meant?
[Vijay] No. I am aware of the SNIA certification
programs and am SCP
2006
certified. The certificate I meant is like a
participation certificate
in
Aperi?s program.
4) [Is the listed projects all are started or yet
to start?] Only the
Storage Network Environment Simulator has any
tangible work started. We
are planning on offering a donation from IBM
Research for a basic CIM
device simulator under the Aperi project banner.
This is 'just' a basic
device simulator. Stitching it into a full blown
SAN environment
simulation and hooking that up with an automated
testing environment is
still work to be done.
5) [Is any new suggestion welcomed?] Absolutely!
Bring them on.
I hope that answers your questions. Please feel
free to contact us for
any
further information or to get started on any
projects with us...
Dave Wolfe/Portland/IBM (dwolfe@xxxxxxxxxx) TL:
775-3376 Office:
503-578-3376 Personal: 503-329-3960
UI Technical Lead, Aperi Open Source Storage
Management
http://www.eclipse.org/aperi
"A good composer does not imitate; he
steals." - Igor Stravinsky
"Vijayprasad Srinivasan, TLS-Chennai"
<vijayprasads@xxxxxx>
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07/31/2007 02:58 AM
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Subject
[aperi-news] Query about academic project ideas
Hi All,
I would like to get some details about Academic
Project ideas. I am
posting this mail for my cousin who is studying
Bachelor of Engineering
in
Computer Science. The details I would like to know
are:
1. What are all the
eligibility criteria for taking up a project?
2. What is the expected
duration of contribution?
3. How Aperi Project
will provide a certificate for the
contribution. Kindly note that certificate might
be primary for some
colleges.
4. Is the listed
projects all are started or yet to start?
5. Is any new
suggestion welcomed?
Please let me the answers as soon as possible.
Thanks,
Vijay S.
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