Dear Miles,
No worries – i will be glad to help.
I am currently in the process of understanding your meta-model
and as soon as i understand what you do – i will be able to make
suggestions.
How is your Plan on developing acore – as i see the
project plan is very ambitious. I would give more time for meta model changes
as the acore.
I understood that you want to finish the meta model very soon
and then only develop the whole suite – or was this wrongly understood.
My paper is planned for November, so i will not be able to hand out to much
suggestions in short time.
BTW starting from M4 – the dates seem to be in the wrong
year.
Regarding your questions:
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1) I never participated in an
eclipse project, did some tweaks and fixes in some projects on sourceforge, and
had some involvement with the Java Community Process in the last years. I know
the tools Eclipse uses and am quite well acquainted with the platform itself
(played around with SWT some time ago)
-
2) See 1 – but was
always more a fixer of bugs when they arose in my project – not a
dedicated contributer – this is my first go on such a thing
-
3) Depending on my clients –
but surely a couple of hours a week (2-5 seems like a realistic time frame) –
it also depends if you count the time that i do research as active time –
might be double the time
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4) Seems not a big problem
(documentation is always the problem it seems! )
-
5) I do not see much problem,
expect that have not yet been involved to much in the eclipse projects –
Actually if i don’t pass i do think that beeing a contributer surely is a
good first step into the eclipse proces
For starters:
I will dive into the documentation during the weekend and find
out what i think is amiss there. Furthermore i will check out the bugzilla.
Let’s see where we go from there.
No questions yet from my point
Mit
freundlichen Grüßen
Dietmar
Gombotz
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Von: Miles
Parker [mailto:milesparker@xxxxxxxxx]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. September 2009 08:28
An: Dietmar Gombotz
Cc: amp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: Re: Eclipse AMP - Contributing
Delighted to hear from you. I'm really looking forward to
seeing a team of people come together around this project and it sounds as
though you have exactly the right expertise. I hope you don't mind but
I've cc'd the developer list (w/o your contact details) for project
transparency and as it could be helpful for future developers. Any further
follow-up to the amp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
as well.
I'm especially interested to hear your thoughts on MetaABM.
As the project plan relates, there is going to be a new meta-model
"acore" that will try to learn from MetaABM experience. There are a
number of things that I'm already wanting to work on, and some areas that need
puzzling out. It's really important to have a good critical look at the current
model and very timely as I'm giving a paper on it at the end of October. And I
am very glad that you want to work on implementation issues as that is the area
that we really need to work on over the next six months or so. And community
building is the most important thing of all right now, see below.
A few questions to start off not to put you on the spot --
just for context.
1. Do you have any official or unofficial involvement in
Eclipse projects now? i.e. bugzilla, blogs, etc..
2. Any other open source stuff?
3. What kind of time do you think you might have to devote
to the project?
4. Are you able to work on documentation, examples and user
support as well? (Please say yes. :))
5. Looking at the guidelines below do you see any issues
with getting past Eclipse foundation committer process? (Even if you do, you
could still be very involved in project.)
As you're probably aware, the Eclipse way to become involved
in projects is (quite) a bit more complex than in most Open Source
projects...this is the first time I've been through this process as lead
as well so I've had to read up on it today. I want to do things right so
that we have good consistency in process for the future. I hope that you won't
find it too much of an impediment. Please see the links below for some general
guidelines.
From what I can gather from the Eclipse guidelines, what
should happen is for you to take on developer role for a bit. Here are some
suggestions for how to get involved.
-Obviously, try to get the thing built and installed, etc..
:)
-Check out the bugzilla. There isn't a lot there yet, but...
add anything
and everything you think of that could be done better or needs to be done or
whatever.
even better,
take a look at some of the outstanding bugzilllas and work on patches for
them.
-Discuss details of meta-model design, API and ideas for
what *you'd* like to see in AMP on dev-list. (More user focussed stuff
might make sense on amp newsgroup.)
-Write documentation and example models! I'm especially
wanting to get some cheat sheets and other internal documentation
going. More than anything, right now we need to get people engaged in the
project and that means getting them up and running and using the tool as
quickly as possible, so I would say that this is the best way to contribute
right now. There is actually a lot of stuff there now, but it's worthless if no-one
knows how to use it.
-Along with this, any input on website, screencasts, and
build issues is most welcome.
On Sep 29, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Dietmar Gombotz wrote:
With
great pleasure I have read that your Project has been accepted into the Eclipse
Suite
Personally
I am based on two areas.
Primarily
I own a small software company in Vienna (Austria) where I focus on specific
software needs for Government and Businesses.
Secondary
I am a student and since recently junior researcher at the Vienna university of
technology, where I focus on using Agent Based Models in the Computational
Economics area.
I
am currently working on two projects (Master Thesis and a Paper) regarding
Agent Based Modelling and would like to contribute to your project. (the paper
is to analyse meta-ABM, criticise and propose improvements)
I
contact you to see how I could support your efforts.
As
an experienced software developer in the Java are I see my focus primarily on
helping in the Implementation area. -> I have worked with MOF/Ecore twice
already (University) and would like to build up more know-how in the MDA area.
As
a German speaker I could also provide some background on building up a
community within the German speaking parts of Europe.
Let
me know if you think I might be able to help,