| Java UI Development [message #84386] | 
Mon, 11 August 2003 04:39   | 
 
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Originally posted by: mohan.bv.in.bosch.com 
 
I want to develop forms in Java. Does Eclipse IDE provide functionality 
for rapid development of UI Components(Swings) like drag and drop 
functionality of components, form editor... as in JBuilder. 
 
If yes how to use such a feature. 
 
Thanks, 
Mohan
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| Re: Java UI Development [message #85381 is a reply to message #84673] | 
Wed, 13 August 2003 10:25    | 
 
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In article <bh8i6i$ku$1@eclipse.org>, Rosés) says... 
>       [Scott, have you plans to release anything?] 
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>   Francesc Rosés 
 
No plans yet... I've got a demo at work next week (unrelated to  
Penumbra), and after that things free up a bit. I'm taking two weeks off  
at the start of Sept and plan to dedicate that time to Penumbra. 
 
For the initial release, I'm going to concentrate on just AWT/Swing.  
I'll be able to support SWT with the same framework, but I want to get  
something out as soon as possible. 
 
I've also been thinking about how the same framework should be able to  
support WYSIWYG for HTML, JSP, JSF, Struts w/ pageflows, etc. quite  
easily. Not in the initial release, but they should be pretty easy add- 
ins, whether I or someone else creates them. 
 
I've been spending a lot of time on the property sheet -- the default  
eclipse property sheet isn't flexible enough for some of the things I  
want to do, so I've made a copy and extended it. Once I get it "just  
right" I'll see if there's any way I can either merge it with the  
original or provide it as an alternative opensource property sheet  
implementation. 
 
<rant> 
I really wish folks wouldn't make so many classes & methods in Eclipse  
non-public or final -- I only needed to modify a couple of classes, but  
due to the non-public nature of many of the involved classes I had to  
copy about 10 classes into my own package... See my "Rules of Reuse"  
article at http://javadude.com/articles for more on this. If it's in an  
"internal" package, that's already warning that it may change, and if I  
depend on it, it's my problem if it changes, so why not just leave it  
open to begin with? 
 
No need to reply to this rant, and not intended as flamebait -- just  
venting... Grr Arg 
</rant> 
 
Hopefully after the first two weeks of Sept I'll at least be able to  
post some screen shots (I still want to keep some stuff secret for now). 
 
Take care, 
-- Scott 
 
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| Re: Java UI Development [message #85585 is a reply to message #85381] | 
Wed, 13 August 2003 18:29   | 
 
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Scott Stanchfield wrote: 
 
> No plans yet... I've got a demo at work next week (unrelated to  
> Penumbra), and after that things free up a bit. I'm taking two weeks off  
> at the start of Sept and plan to dedicate that time to Penumbra. 
 
Thanks for your info, Scott! 
 
> <rant> 
> I really wish folks wouldn't make so many classes & methods in Eclipse  
> non-public or final -- I only needed to modify a couple of classes, but  
> due to the non-public nature of many of the involved classes I had to  
> copy about 10 classes into my own package... See my "Rules of Reuse"  
> article at http://javadude.com/articles for more on this. If it's in an  
> "internal" package, that's already warning that it may change, and if I  
> depend on it, it's my problem if it changes, so why not just leave it  
> open to begin with? 
 
> No need to reply to this rant, and not intended as flamebait -- just  
> venting... Grr Arg 
> </rant> 
 
I AGREE! Please read the article :) 
 
>  ============================================================ =Scott 
Stanchfield    scott@javadude.com    http://javadude.com 
 
> I haven't gotten *any* spam since joining http://knowspam.net! 
 
> Lead author of "Effective VisualAge for Java, Version 3" 
>                                       http://javadude.com/evaj 
> Visit for Java Enlightenment!             http://www.jguru.com 
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