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[Use case] Web Log Reports [message #6104] Wed, 26 January 2005 18:05 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: smesh.openrules.com

I did not found any convenient products for the *subj*. I has already
tried awstats <http://awstats.sourceforge.net/> and WebLog Expert
<http://www.weblogexpert.com/>.

They both lack sofisticated capabilities for querying/subquerying log
data. For example, I can view predefined page "Organizations
statistics". But from it I can not click on the Organization to go to
its Web page or to view detailed statistic for its logs. I'll not say
that there is no way to select subquery criteria (for example, clicking
on some Organizations) and view sub-report for it.

--
10x,
Sam Mesh
Re: [Use case] Web Log Reports [message #6148 is a reply to message #6104] Wed, 26 January 2005 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Rogers is currently offline Paul RogersFriend
Messages: 152
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Sam,

Web logs seem like a great use case for BIRT. BIRT's data engine provides
powerful tools for filtering, sorting & grouping data. Someone will need to
create a data adapter to parse a web log into a format that BIRT can
understand, but this should be a straightforward use of BIRT's comprehensive
extension framework. Perhaps there is an open source JDBC driver that
already exists?

You mentioned subqueries; which appear to be "drill-down" links in BIRT
terminology. You should be able to create reports that present summary data,
then provide drill-down links to reports that present specific data in
greater detail.

Once BIRT is available for use, this would be wonderful use case to try for
someone in the BIRT community who is familiar with web logs and their
reporting needs.

- Paul

Paul Rogers

BIRT PMC



"Sam Mesh" <smesh@openrules.com> wrote in message
news:ct8m55$ejl$1@www.eclipse.org...
>I did not found any convenient products for the *subj*. I has already tried
>awstats <http://awstats.sourceforge.net/> and WebLog Expert
><http://www.weblogexpert.com/>.
>
> They both lack sofisticated capabilities for querying/subquerying log
> data. For example, I can view predefined page "Organizations statistics".
> But from it I can not click on the Organization to go to its Web page or
> to view detailed statistic for its logs. I'll not say that there is no way
> to select subquery criteria (for example, clicking on some Organizations)
> and view sub-report for it.
>
> --
> 10x,
> Sam Mesh
Re: [Use case] Web Log Reports [message #6163 is a reply to message #6148] Wed, 26 January 2005 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: smesh.openrules.com

Paul,

Thanks for giving me hope with Web Log Reports.
What kind of the model/meta model has to be provided?

Here is my 'knowledge' about Web logging:
- logs can be accumulated from Apache Web Server
- log format is publicly available
- logs contain IPs or DNS names
- other IP-based information can be obtained via databases/web services
- all this stuff is public and free (except Organization database:)

--
10x,
Sam Mesh

Paul Rogers wrote:
> Web logs seem like a great use case for BIRT. BIRT's data engine provides
> powerful tools for filtering, sorting & grouping data. Someone will need to
> create a data adapter to parse a web log into a format that BIRT can
> understand, but this should be a straightforward use of BIRT's comprehensive
> extension framework. Perhaps there is an open source JDBC driver that
> already exists?
>
> You mentioned subqueries; which appear to be "drill-down" links in BIRT
> terminology. You should be able to create reports that present summary data,
> then provide drill-down links to reports that present specific data in
> greater detail.
>
> Once BIRT is available for use, this would be wonderful use case to try for
> someone in the BIRT community who is familiar with web logs and their
> reporting needs.
>
> "Sam Mesh" <smesh@openrules.com> wrote in message
> news:ct8m55$ejl$1@www.eclipse.org...
>
>>I did not found any convenient products for the *subj*. I has already tried
>>awstats <http://awstats.sourceforge.net/> and WebLog Expert
>><http://www.weblogexpert.com/>.
>>
>>They both lack sofisticated capabilities for querying/subquerying log
>>data. For example, I can view predefined page "Organizations statistics".
>>But from it I can not click on the Organization to go to its Web page or
>>to view detailed statistic for its logs. I'll not say that there is no way
>>to select subquery criteria (for example, clicking on some Organizations)
>>and view sub-report for it.
Re: [Use case] Web Log Reports [message #6177 is a reply to message #6148] Fri, 28 January 2005 18:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bryan Hunt is currently offline Bryan HuntFriend
Messages: 366
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
You might want to look at Hyades. I think they've already done a lot
of work with the Common Base Event and viewing (mining) web logs.

Bryan


On 2005-01-26 13:21:49 -0600, "Paul Rogers" <progers@actuate.com> said:

> Sam,
>
> Web logs seem like a great use case for BIRT. BIRT's data engine
> provides powerful tools for filtering, sorting & grouping data. Someone
> will need to create a data adapter to parse a web log into a format
> that BIRT can understand, but this should be a straightforward use of
> BIRT's comprehensive extension framework. Perhaps there is an open
> source JDBC driver that already exists?
>
> You mentioned subqueries; which appear to be "drill-down" links in BIRT
> terminology. You should be able to create reports that present summary
> data, then provide drill-down links to reports that present specific
> data in greater detail.
>
> Once BIRT is available for use, this would be wonderful use case to try
> for someone in the BIRT community who is familiar with web logs and
> their reporting needs.
>
> - Paul
>
> Paul Rogers
>
> BIRT PMC
>
>
>
> "Sam Mesh" <smesh@openrules.com> wrote in message
> news:ct8m55$ejl$1@www.eclipse.org...
>> I did not found any convenient products for the *subj*. I has already
>> tried awstats <http://awstats.sourceforge.net/> and WebLog Expert
>> <http://www.weblogexpert.com/>.
>>
>> They both lack sofisticated capabilities for querying/subquerying log
>> data. For example, I can view predefined page "Organizations
>> statistics". But from it I can not click on the Organization to go to
>> its Web page or to view detailed statistic for its logs. I'll not say
>> that there is no way to select subquery criteria (for example, clicking
>> on some Organizations) and view sub-report for it.
>>
>> --
>> 10x,
>> Sam Mesh
Re: [Use case] Web Log Reports [message #6287 is a reply to message #6163] Wed, 02 February 2005 21:44 Go to previous message
Linda ChanFriend
Messages: 845
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Sam,

>> What kind of the model/meta model has to be provided?

For the BIRT extension to data access, the Data Engine component has implemented
an Open Data Access (ODA) extension framework. It provides the capability to plug
in any external data source, such as the Web logs and other application data
sources, to the BIRT reporting engine.

BIRT ODA extension defines a set of public interfaces. It adopts the Eclipse
plug-in framework for one to provide a designer tool, and a runtime driver for
data retrieval during report generation. The BIRT community is encouraged to
adopt the ODA extension framework for its specific types of data sources.

We will be publishing detail spec on the ROM Data model and the ODA interfaces
shortly.
In brief, the Eclipse plug-in for BIRT data extension allows one to provide a
designer GUI tool specific to an external data source. The plug-in designer tool
would then use BIRT public API to specify the data set and data source
definitions, which will be saved in the report design file. BIRT Data Engine
would then use such data definition in the report design, and access a data
extension's ODA runtime driver for query execution and data retrieval.
The ODA runtime interfaces are JDBC-like, but has been extended to support
additional capabilities of non-RDBMS data sources. An ODA driver would basically
implement the public runtime interfaces, which would in turn wrap data source
specific APIs, such as web services, etc. to retrieve data rows.
For a preview, the ODA runtime interfaces source are available in the Eclipse CVS
source code repository, in the org.eclipse.birt.data.oda package under the
org.eclipse.birt.data sub project.

Linda
BIRT Data Engine lead


Sam Mesh wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Thanks for giving me hope with Web Log Reports.
> What kind of the model/meta model has to be provided?
>
> Here is my 'knowledge' about Web logging:
> - logs can be accumulated from Apache Web Server
> - log format is publicly available
> - logs contain IPs or DNS names
> - other IP-based information can be obtained via databases/web services
> - all this stuff is public and free (except Organization database:)
>
> --
> 10x,
> Sam Mesh
>
> Paul Rogers wrote:
> > Web logs seem like a great use case for BIRT. BIRT's data engine provides
> > powerful tools for filtering, sorting & grouping data. Someone will need to
> > create a data adapter to parse a web log into a format that BIRT can
> > understand, but this should be a straightforward use of BIRT's comprehensive
> > extension framework. Perhaps there is an open source JDBC driver that
> > already exists?
> >
> > You mentioned subqueries; which appear to be "drill-down" links in BIRT
> > terminology. You should be able to create reports that present summary data,
> > then provide drill-down links to reports that present specific data in
> > greater detail.
> >
> > Once BIRT is available for use, this would be wonderful use case to try for
> > someone in the BIRT community who is familiar with web logs and their
> > reporting needs.
> >
> > "Sam Mesh" <smesh@openrules.com> wrote in message
> > news:ct8m55$ejl$1@www.eclipse.org...
> >
> >>I did not found any convenient products for the *subj*. I has already tried
> >>awstats <http://awstats.sourceforge.net/> and WebLog Expert
> >><http://www.weblogexpert.com/>.
> >>
> >>They both lack sofisticated capabilities for querying/subquerying log
> >>data. For example, I can view predefined page "Organizations statistics".
> >>But from it I can not click on the Organization to go to its Web page or
> >>to view detailed statistic for its logs. I'll not say that there is no way
> >>to select subquery criteria (for example, clicking on some Organizations)
> >>and view sub-report for it.
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