| New CVS? [message #59357] |
Sat, 18 October 2003 21:22  |
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Originally posted by: derisor.arcor.de
Lets face it, CVS is an OLD product. Furthermore, the development of CVS is
almost dead having few releases in recent years. At least this is my opinion.
What I am doing in polling the community of open source developers as to what
they think. I am seriously considering starting a project to replace CVS using
Java technology in the way that Ant has virtually replaced make as a build
utility (for good reason).
I am curious about the following questions:
1) What do you think about the idea?
2) What lessons do you think can be learned from CVS? Things done badly, not
done at all, etc.
3) What features in CVS do you believe should be deprecated and why?
4) What features would you like to see in a replacement to CVS that currently
are not available in CVS?
And for the Apache Folk:
5) Would you consider this an interesting project for ASF?
I look forward to your answers and comments.
-- Kraythe
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| Re: New CVS? [message #59382 is a reply to message #59357] |
Sun, 19 October 2003 17:46  |
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Originally posted by: daniel.megert.gmx.net
Robert Simmons wrote:
>Lets face it, CVS is an OLD product. Furthermore, the development of CVS is
>almost dead having few releases in recent years. At least this is my opinion.
>
>What I am doing in polling the community of open source developers as to what
>they think. I am seriously considering starting a project to replace CVS using
>Java technology in the way that Ant has virtually replaced make as a build
>utility (for good reason).
>
>
I suggest to take a look at the existing Eclipse technology project
"Stellation"
http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E/ org.eclipse.stellation/main.html
Dani
>I am curious about the following questions:
>
>1) What do you think about the idea?
>
>2) What lessons do you think can be learned from CVS? Things done badly, not
>done at all, etc.
>
>3) What features in CVS do you believe should be deprecated and why?
>
>4) What features would you like to see in a replacement to CVS that currently
>are not available in CVS?
>
>And for the Apache Folk:
>
>5) Would you consider this an interesting project for ASF?
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>I look forward to your answers and comments.
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>-- Kraythe
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| Re: New CVS? [message #59431 is a reply to message #59357] |
Mon, 20 October 2003 13:36 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: bob.news.gmx.net
"Robert Simmons" <derisor@arcor.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:bmsate$8ec$1@eclipse.org...
> Lets face it, CVS is an OLD product. Furthermore, the development of CVS
is
> almost dead having few releases in recent years. At least this is my
opinion.
>
> What I am doing in polling the community of open source developers as to
what
> they think. I am seriously considering starting a project to replace CVS
using
> Java technology in the way that Ant has virtually replaced make as a
build
> utility (for good reason).
>
> I am curious about the following questions:
>
> 1) What do you think about the idea?
>
> 2) What lessons do you think can be learned from CVS? Things done badly,
not
> done at all, etc.
>
> 3) What features in CVS do you believe should be deprecated and why?
>
> 4) What features would you like to see in a replacement to CVS that
currently
> are not available in CVS?
>
> And for the Apache Folk:
>
> 5) Would you consider this an interesting project for ASF?
>
> I look forward to your answers and comments.
You're not the first one to notice certain shortcomings... See
http://subversion.tigris.org/
robert
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| Re: New CVS? [message #59940 is a reply to message #59357] |
Thu, 04 December 2003 23:50 |
 Gregg Wonderly
Messages: 12
Registered: July 2009 |
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"Robert Simmons" <derisor@arcor.de> wrote in message
news:bmsate$8ec$1@eclipse.org...
> Lets face it, CVS is an OLD product. Furthermore, the development of CVS
is
> almost dead having few releases in recent years. At least this is my
opinion.
>
> What I am doing in polling the community of open source developers as to
what
> they think. I am seriously considering starting a project to replace CVS
using
> Java technology in the way that Ant has virtually replaced make as a build
> utility (for good reason).
The easiest thing to do for yourself is to go download perforce from
www.perforce.com and use it. It's fast, safe, and works flawlessly from my
perspective. If you want a bigger group to use it, then buy some licenses,
support the developers there, and you'll have a win-win situation.
It's "Free, as in beer", until you have a company that is making money, and
then they can "Pay, as in money" for some licenses and then the perforce
crowd can go have some beer!
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| Re: New CVS? [message #62362 is a reply to message #59357] |
Sun, 04 April 2004 03:53 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: nedim.codemonkeys.org
> What I am doing in polling the community of open source developers as to
> what they think. I am seriously considering starting a project to replace
> CVS using Java technology in the way that Ant has virtually replaced make
> as a build utility (for good reason).
>
> I am curious about the following questions:
>
> 1) What do you think about the idea?
Getting to stable production ready SCM system is going to take several years
of hard work. Nobody wants to use buggy system. I guess thats why most
people prefere (in many ways inadequate) CVS.
Why reinvent the wheel and spread reasorces thin? Join the Subversion
project, they seem to be on the right track.
> 4) What features would you like to see in a replacement to CVS that
> currently are not available in CVS?
Support for rename and move. Directory versioning. Real locking support.
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| Re: New CVS? [message #62409 is a reply to message #62362] |
Sun, 04 April 2004 17:14 |
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Originally posted by: hdq.nospamat.adinet.com.uy
Nedim Cholich wrote:
>> What I am doing in polling the community of open source developers as to
>> what they think. I am seriously considering starting a project to replace
>> CVS using Java technology in the way that Ant has virtually replaced make
>> as a build utility (for good reason).
>
> Why reinvent the wheel and spread reasorces thin? Join the Subversion
> project, they seem to be on the right track.
The URL for it is:
http://subversion.tigris.org
You may also find this interesting:
Eclipse client for Subversion:
http://subclipse.tigris.org
Linux GUI client for Subversion:
http://rapidsvn.tigris.org/
Windows GUI client for Subversion:
http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/
Greetings,
Héctor
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| Re: New CVS? [message #595836 is a reply to message #59357] |
Sun, 19 October 2003 17:46 |
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Originally posted by: daniel.megert.gmx.net
Robert Simmons wrote:
>Lets face it, CVS is an OLD product. Furthermore, the development of CVS is
>almost dead having few releases in recent years. At least this is my opinion.
>
>What I am doing in polling the community of open source developers as to what
>they think. I am seriously considering starting a project to replace CVS using
>Java technology in the way that Ant has virtually replaced make as a build
>utility (for good reason).
>
>
I suggest to take a look at the existing Eclipse technology project
"Stellation"
http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E/ org.eclipse.stellation/main.html
Dani
>I am curious about the following questions:
>
>1) What do you think about the idea?
>
>2) What lessons do you think can be learned from CVS? Things done badly, not
>done at all, etc.
>
>3) What features in CVS do you believe should be deprecated and why?
>
>4) What features would you like to see in a replacement to CVS that currently
>are not available in CVS?
>
>And for the Apache Folk:
>
>5) Would you consider this an interesting project for ASF?
>
>I look forward to your answers and comments.
>
>-- Kraythe
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>
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| Re: New CVS? [message #596046 is a reply to message #59357] |
Thu, 04 December 2003 23:50 |
Gregg Wonderly
Messages: 12
Registered: July 2009 |
Junior Member |
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"Robert Simmons" <derisor@arcor.de> wrote in message
news:bmsate$8ec$1@eclipse.org...
> Lets face it, CVS is an OLD product. Furthermore, the development of CVS
is
> almost dead having few releases in recent years. At least this is my
opinion.
>
> What I am doing in polling the community of open source developers as to
what
> they think. I am seriously considering starting a project to replace CVS
using
> Java technology in the way that Ant has virtually replaced make as a build
> utility (for good reason).
The easiest thing to do for yourself is to go download perforce from
www.perforce.com and use it. It's fast, safe, and works flawlessly from my
perspective. If you want a bigger group to use it, then buy some licenses,
support the developers there, and you'll have a win-win situation.
It's "Free, as in beer", until you have a company that is making money, and
then they can "Pay, as in money" for some licenses and then the perforce
crowd can go have some beer!
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| Re: New CVS? [message #597020 is a reply to message #62362] |
Sun, 04 April 2004 17:14 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: hdq.nospamat.adinet.com.uy
Nedim Cholich wrote:
>> What I am doing in polling the community of open source developers as to
>> what they think. I am seriously considering starting a project to replace
>> CVS using Java technology in the way that Ant has virtually replaced make
>> as a build utility (for good reason).
>
> Why reinvent the wheel and spread reasorces thin? Join the Subversion
> project, they seem to be on the right track.
The URL for it is:
http://subversion.tigris.org
You may also find this interesting:
Eclipse client for Subversion:
http://subclipse.tigris.org
Linux GUI client for Subversion:
http://rapidsvn.tigris.org/
Windows GUI client for Subversion:
http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/
Greetings,
Héctor
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