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| Workbench on server side [message #58930] |
Mon, 30 January 2006 15:36  |
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Originally posted by: giacomin.vettatech.com
Hi there,
Being able to deploy equinox on server side is really a cool thing. This
solves the problem of web app componentization in an elegant and
standardized way (the one I was looking for!). Just wondering if there is
any movement towards making eclipse.ui and eclipse.ui.workbench bundles
available to web applications as well. It would be really exciting to have
all Eclipse workbench flexibility (windows, pages, views, perspectives,
etc.) available for web applications' users, so they can define the way they
want to use/customize the application's UI. If there is no such movement
currently, can you foresee the main obstacles to achieve that?
Best regards,
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Ricardo Giacomin
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| Re: Workbench on server side [message #58980 is a reply to message #58930] |
Tue, 31 January 2006 14:40  |
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Originally posted by: jeff_nospam_mcaffer.ca.ibm.com
Ricardo,
Not sure what this would really mean. The workbench etc is based on SWT.
Do you mean the same model but rendered in HTML? AJAX? Lightweight client
UI?
Jeff
"Ricardo Giacomin" <giacomin@vettatech.com> wrote in message
news:drlbq8$els$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Hi there,
>
> Being able to deploy equinox on server side is really a cool thing. This
> solves the problem of web app componentization in an elegant and
> standardized way (the one I was looking for!). Just wondering if there is
> any movement towards making eclipse.ui and eclipse.ui.workbench bundles
> available to web applications as well. It would be really exciting to have
> all Eclipse workbench flexibility (windows, pages, views, perspectives,
> etc.) available for web applications' users, so they can define the way
they
> want to use/customize the application's UI. If there is no such movement
> currently, can you foresee the main obstacles to achieve that?
>
> Best regards,
> --
> Ricardo Giacomin
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| Re: Workbench on server side [message #59079 is a reply to message #58980] |
Tue, 31 January 2006 15:41 |
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Originally posted by: giacomin.vettatech.com
Hi Jeff,
Exactly. The idea is to have the same abstractions we do in Eclipse
(workbench, pages, parts, etc.) rendered in HTML, AJAX, etc. A developer of
a plugin based on this framework could define new views by extending
workbench's views extension point (just like we have). That'd be great if
for instance I'm implementing a web based project management application and
wanted it to be extended by someone else able to create a Gantt view. Or
improve this tool defining a Sponsor's perspective, a Project Manager
perspective, a Developer's perspective and so forth.
Best,
--
Ricardo Giacomin
Program Manager - Vetta Technologies
www.vettatech.com - T/F +55 31 3293-6516 - ext 201
"Jeff McAffer" <jeff_nospam_mcaffer@ca.ibm.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:drnssj$p55$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Ricardo,
>
> Not sure what this would really mean. The workbench etc is based on SWT.
> Do you mean the same model but rendered in HTML? AJAX? Lightweight
> client
> UI?
>
> Jeff
>
> "Ricardo Giacomin" <giacomin@vettatech.com> wrote in message
> news:drlbq8$els$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Being able to deploy equinox on server side is really a cool thing. This
>> solves the problem of web app componentization in an elegant and
>> standardized way (the one I was looking for!). Just wondering if there is
>> any movement towards making eclipse.ui and eclipse.ui.workbench bundles
>> available to web applications as well. It would be really exciting to
>> have
>> all Eclipse workbench flexibility (windows, pages, views, perspectives,
>> etc.) available for web applications' users, so they can define the way
> they
>> want to use/customize the application's UI. If there is no such movement
>> currently, can you foresee the main obstacles to achieve that?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> --
>> Ricardo Giacomin
>>
>>
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| Re: Workbench on server side [message #59126 is a reply to message #58930] |
Tue, 31 January 2006 19:35 |
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Originally posted by: skaegi.sympatico.ca
.... the dream ;)
I've seen the idea thrown around but haven't seen anything really concrete
being done.
Above and beyond the size of the task a few other major obstacles are:
1) coming up with a good component model on the client where things won't
collide and interfere with one another.
2) handling many users on the server instead of just one e.g. dealing with
per user capabilities, preferences, storage needs, etc.
As a first step I think an application that explored the use of extensions
in a servlet UI would be very cool.
I've been thinking about something along these lines to create a pluggable
web admin console.
.... not as sophisticated as the workbench, but a start.
-Simon
"Ricardo Giacomin" <giacomin@vettatech.com> wrote in message
news:drlbq8$els$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Hi there,
>
> Being able to deploy equinox on server side is really a cool thing. This
> solves the problem of web app componentization in an elegant and
> standardized way (the one I was looking for!). Just wondering if there is
> any movement towards making eclipse.ui and eclipse.ui.workbench bundles
> available to web applications as well. It would be really exciting to have
> all Eclipse workbench flexibility (windows, pages, views, perspectives,
> etc.) available for web applications' users, so they can define the way
they
> want to use/customize the application's UI. If there is no such movement
> currently, can you foresee the main obstacles to achieve that?
>
> Best regards,
> --
> Ricardo Giacomin
>
>
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