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Some questions [message #2151] Wed, 19 November 2003 12:00 Go to next message
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- May we expect a full featured/professional GUI builder for SWT ?
- Will it be possible to implement new Widgets/FormTemplates that then can
be used by the visual editor ?
- What about Sweet ?
- What is the future of SWTworkbench ?
- What is the future of SWT-Designer ?
- Any plans to implement a layer on top of SWT/Swing that makes it possible
to write once for both UI toolkits :-)

Thanks in advance for your answers
Re: Some questions [message #2183 is a reply to message #2151] Wed, 19 November 2003 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: schmidt.2002.gmx.de

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:00:04 +0100, René Sigi
<rene.siegenthaler@ch.transport.bombardier.com> wrote:

> - May we expect a full featured/professional GUI builder for SWT ?

SWT support will come, from the first half of 2004 on

> - Any plans to implement a layer on top of SWT/Swing that makes it
> possible
> to write once for both UI toolkits :-)

Look at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/swingwt/

Andi
Re: Some questions [message #2370 is a reply to message #2151] Thu, 20 November 2003 03:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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René Sigi wrote:
> - May we expect a full featured/professional GUI builder for SWT ?

Yes.

> - Will it be possible to implement new Widgets/FormTemplates that then can
> be used by the visual editor ?

Yes.

> - What about Sweet ?

Sweet will be the foundation of the SWT editor.

> - What is the future of SWTworkbench ?

SWTworkbench always has been more than just a GUI builder. We currently
intend to release products to enhance SWT that can be used with
Eclipse's SWT GUI builder. ASC has not announed any plans for the
current SWTworkbench code base.

> - What is the future of SWT-Designer ?

I'll let Eric answer this question. :-)

> - Any plans to implement a layer on top of SWT/Swing that makes it possible
> to write once for both UI toolkits :-)

Nobody has announced that they want to contribute this. Would you like
to? (Of course, there's the SWT/Swing interoperability layer that is
being developed, but that is different from what you are talking about).

> Thanks in advance for your answers

Gladly!


Regards,

Dave Orme
Re: Some questions [message #3874 is a reply to message #2151] Sat, 22 November 2003 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <bpflo1$sg2$1@eclipse.org>,
rene.siegenthaler@ch.transport.bombardier.com says...
> - May we expect a full featured/professional GUI builder for SWT ?
> - Will it be possible to implement new Widgets/FormTemplates that then can
> be used by the visual editor ?
> - What about Sweet ?
> - What is the future of SWTworkbench ?
> - What is the future of SWT-Designer ?
> - Any plans to implement a layer on top of SWT/Swing that makes it possible
> to write once for both UI toolkits :-)
>
> Thanks in advance for your answers

Take a peek at the "Questions and Answers" doc listed at the top of the
"What's New" section of http://eclipse.org/vep. It answers most of these
questions.

-- Scott
Re: Some questions [message #4614 is a reply to message #2151] Mon, 24 November 2003 22:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Ren
Re: Some questions [message #4752 is a reply to message #4614] Mon, 24 November 2003 23:22 Go to previous message
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Eric Clayberg wrote:
> "René Sigi" <rene.siegenthaler@ch.transport.bombardier.com> wrote in message
> news:bpflo1$sg2$1@eclipse.org...
>
> The charter of the VE Project is not to build full "featured/professional"
> products, but rather to create a strong, underlying technical foundation
> upon which such products could be built.

I'd like to correct a small error here:

The VE Project is a subproject of eclipse.tools and as such inherits the
eclipse.tools charter. It does not have a charter of its own. This
charter reads in part:

---
Mission

The mission of Eclipse Tools Project is to foster the creation of a wide
variety of tools for the Eclipse Platform. The project provides a focal
point for diverse tool builders to ensure the creation of best of breed
tools for the platform.

<snip/>

The project will promote the Eclipse vision and attempt to foster
subprojects that set the “gold standard” for tools implementers.
---

Based on this charter, we will definitely create a strong underlying
technical foundation on which other products can be built (and I expect
that Instantiations will continue to be successful at doing this as they
have been in the past).

In addition, I fully expect that what we do here in the Visual Editor
Project will continue to live up to the standard that we have set for
ourselves through the code that we have already released.

So if you're looking for a cool project to use and contribute to, you've
come to the right place. :-)


Regards,

Dave
--
Dave Orme
Chief Architect
Advanced Systems Concepts
http://www.swtworkbench.com
Re: Some questions [message #567250 is a reply to message #2151] Wed, 19 November 2003 17:45 Go to previous message
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:00:04 +0100, René Sigi
<rene.siegenthaler@ch.transport.bombardier.com> wrote:

> - May we expect a full featured/professional GUI builder for SWT ?

SWT support will come, from the first half of 2004 on

> - Any plans to implement a layer on top of SWT/Swing that makes it
> possible
> to write once for both UI toolkits :-)

Look at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/swingwt/

Andi
Re: Some questions [message #567474 is a reply to message #2151] Thu, 20 November 2003 03:37 Go to previous message
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René Sigi wrote:
> - May we expect a full featured/professional GUI builder for SWT ?

Yes.

> - Will it be possible to implement new Widgets/FormTemplates that then can
> be used by the visual editor ?

Yes.

> - What about Sweet ?

Sweet will be the foundation of the SWT editor.

> - What is the future of SWTworkbench ?

SWTworkbench always has been more than just a GUI builder. We currently
intend to release products to enhance SWT that can be used with
Eclipse's SWT GUI builder. ASC has not announed any plans for the
current SWTworkbench code base.

> - What is the future of SWT-Designer ?

I'll let Eric answer this question. :-)

> - Any plans to implement a layer on top of SWT/Swing that makes it possible
> to write once for both UI toolkits :-)

Nobody has announced that they want to contribute this. Would you like
to? (Of course, there's the SWT/Swing interoperability layer that is
being developed, but that is different from what you are talking about).

> Thanks in advance for your answers

Gladly!


Regards,

Dave Orme
Re: Some questions [message #568390 is a reply to message #2151] Sat, 22 November 2003 13:34 Go to previous message
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In article <bpflo1$sg2$1@eclipse.org>,
rene.siegenthaler@ch.transport.bombardier.com says...
> - May we expect a full featured/professional GUI builder for SWT ?
> - Will it be possible to implement new Widgets/FormTemplates that then can
> be used by the visual editor ?
> - What about Sweet ?
> - What is the future of SWTworkbench ?
> - What is the future of SWT-Designer ?
> - Any plans to implement a layer on top of SWT/Swing that makes it possible
> to write once for both UI toolkits :-)
>
> Thanks in advance for your answers

Take a peek at the "Questions and Answers" doc listed at the top of the
"What's New" section of http://eclipse.org/vep It answers most of these
questions.

-- Scott
Re: Some questions [message #568871 is a reply to message #2151] Mon, 24 November 2003 22:17 Go to previous message
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"Ren
Re: Some questions [message #568920 is a reply to message #4614] Mon, 24 November 2003 23:22 Go to previous message
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Eric Clayberg wrote:
> "René Sigi" <rene.siegenthaler@ch.transport.bombardier.com> wrote in message
> news:bpflo1$sg2$1@eclipse.org...
>
> The charter of the VE Project is not to build full "featured/professional"
> products, but rather to create a strong, underlying technical foundation
> upon which such products could be built.

I'd like to correct a small error here:

The VE Project is a subproject of eclipse.tools and as such inherits the
eclipse.tools charter. It does not have a charter of its own. This
charter reads in part:

---
Mission

The mission of Eclipse Tools Project is to foster the creation of a wide
variety of tools for the Eclipse Platform. The project provides a focal
point for diverse tool builders to ensure the creation of best of breed
tools for the platform.

<snip/>

The project will promote the Eclipse vision and attempt to foster
subprojects that set the “gold standard” for tools implementers.
---

Based on this charter, we will definitely create a strong underlying
technical foundation on which other products can be built (and I expect
that Instantiations will continue to be successful at doing this as they
have been in the past).

In addition, I fully expect that what we do here in the Visual Editor
Project will continue to live up to the standard that we have set for
ourselves through the code that we have already released.

So if you're looking for a cool project to use and contribute to, you've
come to the right place. :-)


Regards,

Dave
--
Dave Orme
Chief Architect
Advanced Systems Concepts
http://www.swtworkbench.com
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