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| Re: Strawman for C/C++ IDE Package [message #5530 is a reply to message #5522] |
Sat, 28 April 2007 10:32   |
Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: mknauer.innoopract.com
I think having a package for C/C++ development is very important for the
acceptance of the packaging project.
But I also do know about the typical problems of a new user: I downloaded
and installed a complete C/C++ Development IDE, but where is my compiler???
This is something that we cannot change in the near future, because we are
not able to build a package including a compiler for IP reasons. This would
be something that we cannot distribute from the eclipse.org infrastructure.
On the other hand, the compiler problem only arises on the Windows
platform; most Unices have already a C compiler available on their system.
Nevertheless: IMHO a C/C++ IDE Package is something that makes the
installation of a C/C++ easier. I installed one of the latest CDT 4
milestones and had a look at the new project wizard. There you can select a
toolchain that will be used in the project.
The package content below is pretty small, but it should be enough for a
C/C++ developer. Anything else that makes sense to add?
Markus
Ian Skerrett wrote:
> At the last project meeting, I took the action item to document a strawman
> proposal for a C/C++ IDE. Below is a first draft. Please let me know
> your comments.
>
> C/C++ IDE Package
> ==============
> Platform (no JDT or PDE)
> CDT
> No source code should be included.
>
> Btw, I spoke with Doug Schaefer and he feels that the installer does not
> need to look for a C/C++ compiler. It seems in CDT 4.0 the new project
> wizard has functionality to do this.
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| Re: Strawman for C/C++ IDE Package [message #5576 is a reply to message #5530] |
Wed, 23 May 2007 02:03 |
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Originally posted by: dschaefer.qnx.com
I think the lack of a compiler for Windows is a killer. 70% of CDT
downloads are for Windows. On Linux, the CDT is already available with
many of the distributions. Mac probably has the same problem as Windows.
And yes, unfortunately the gnu compiler suite isn't IP clean enough and
license friendly enough for eclipse.org. Luckily there are other avenues
to deliver such a package, such as EasyEclipse or something new on
SourceForge.
Doug Schaefer
CDT Project Lead.
Markus Knauer wrote:
> I think having a package for C/C++ development is very important for the
> acceptance of the packaging project.
>
> But I also do know about the typical problems of a new user: I downloaded
> and installed a complete C/C++ Development IDE, but where is my compiler???
>
> This is something that we cannot change in the near future, because we are
> not able to build a package including a compiler for IP reasons. This would
> be something that we cannot distribute from the eclipse.org infrastructure.
> On the other hand, the compiler problem only arises on the Windows
> platform; most Unices have already a C compiler available on their system.
>
> Nevertheless: IMHO a C/C++ IDE Package is something that makes the
> installation of a C/C++ easier. I installed one of the latest CDT 4
> milestones and had a look at the new project wizard. There you can select a
> toolchain that will be used in the project.
>
> The package content below is pretty small, but it should be enough for a
> C/C++ developer. Anything else that makes sense to add?
>
> Markus
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>
> Ian Skerrett wrote:
>
>> At the last project meeting, I took the action item to document a strawman
>> proposal for a C/C++ IDE. Below is a first draft. Please let me know
>> your comments.
>>
>> C/C++ IDE Package
>> ==============
>> Platform (no JDT or PDE)
>> CDT
>> No source code should be included.
>>
>> Btw, I spoke with Doug Schaefer and he feels that the installer does not
>> need to look for a C/C++ compiler. It seems in CDT 4.0 the new project
>> wizard has functionality to do this.
>
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| Re: Strawman for C/C++ IDE Package [message #574624 is a reply to message #5522] |
Sat, 28 April 2007 10:32 |
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I think having a package for C/C++ development is very important for the
acceptance of the packaging project.
But I also do know about the typical problems of a new user: I downloaded
and installed a complete C/C++ Development IDE, but where is my compiler???
This is something that we cannot change in the near future, because we are
not able to build a package including a compiler for IP reasons. This would
be something that we cannot distribute from the eclipse.org infrastructure.
On the other hand, the compiler problem only arises on the Windows
platform; most Unices have already a C compiler available on their system.
Nevertheless: IMHO a C/C++ IDE Package is something that makes the
installation of a C/C++ easier. I installed one of the latest CDT 4
milestones and had a look at the new project wizard. There you can select a
toolchain that will be used in the project.
The package content below is pretty small, but it should be enough for a
C/C++ developer. Anything else that makes sense to add?
Markus
Ian Skerrett wrote:
> At the last project meeting, I took the action item to document a strawman
> proposal for a C/C++ IDE. Below is a first draft. Please let me know
> your comments.
>
> C/C++ IDE Package
> ==============
> Platform (no JDT or PDE)
> CDT
> No source code should be included.
>
> Btw, I spoke with Doug Schaefer and he feels that the installer does not
> need to look for a C/C++ compiler. It seems in CDT 4.0 the new project
> wizard has functionality to do this.
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| Re: Strawman for C/C++ IDE Package [message #574890 is a reply to message #5530] |
Wed, 23 May 2007 02:03 |
 Doug Schaefer
Messages: 135
Registered: July 2009 |
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I think the lack of a compiler for Windows is a killer. 70% of CDT
downloads are for Windows. On Linux, the CDT is already available with
many of the distributions. Mac probably has the same problem as Windows.
And yes, unfortunately the gnu compiler suite isn't IP clean enough and
license friendly enough for eclipse.org. Luckily there are other avenues
to deliver such a package, such as EasyEclipse or something new on
SourceForge.
Doug Schaefer
CDT Project Lead.
Markus Knauer wrote:
> I think having a package for C/C++ development is very important for the
> acceptance of the packaging project.
>
> But I also do know about the typical problems of a new user: I downloaded
> and installed a complete C/C++ Development IDE, but where is my compiler???
>
> This is something that we cannot change in the near future, because we are
> not able to build a package including a compiler for IP reasons. This would
> be something that we cannot distribute from the eclipse.org infrastructure.
> On the other hand, the compiler problem only arises on the Windows
> platform; most Unices have already a C compiler available on their system.
>
> Nevertheless: IMHO a C/C++ IDE Package is something that makes the
> installation of a C/C++ easier. I installed one of the latest CDT 4
> milestones and had a look at the new project wizard. There you can select a
> toolchain that will be used in the project.
>
> The package content below is pretty small, but it should be enough for a
> C/C++ developer. Anything else that makes sense to add?
>
> Markus
>
>
> Ian Skerrett wrote:
>
>> At the last project meeting, I took the action item to document a strawman
>> proposal for a C/C++ IDE. Below is a first draft. Please let me know
>> your comments.
>>
>> C/C++ IDE Package
>> ==============
>> Platform (no JDT or PDE)
>> CDT
>> No source code should be included.
>>
>> Btw, I spoke with Doug Schaefer and he feels that the installer does not
>> need to look for a C/C++ compiler. It seems in CDT 4.0 the new project
>> wizard has functionality to do this.
>
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