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| Re: Biggest Eclipse bug still exist! PC reinstall + clean install = STILL! [message #328161 is a reply to message #328156] |
Thu, 15 May 2008 22:38   |
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Originally posted by: davisons.qwest.com
Mr. Hama,
I've read the history provided by your first link. First let's make sure
that I understand your complaint. You create a file, type something into
it, and then save it. Then you open the file, delete some content, and save
it again. Your complaint is that the file size on the disk has not changed?
I hesitate to offer any futher advice until I'm absolutely sure your problem
is as I have described it.
Regards,
Stephen
"Mr. Hama" <hamasaki@citromail.hu> wrote in message
news:eccc36fc1a287a82a0bfaacc7e6d1697$1@www.eclipse.org...
> History:
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> http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=41027&g roup=eclipse.platform.swt#41027
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> I download from here:
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> http://archive.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R1.5/R-1 .5.5-200708291442/
> This:
> wtp-all-in-one-sdk-R-1.5.5-200708291442-win32.zip
> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/webtools /downloads/drops/R1.5/R-1.5.5-200708291442/wtp-all-in-one-sd k-R-1.5.5-200708291442-win32.zip
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> installing:
> Sun Java 2 Standard Edition 1.4.2_10
> Sun Java 2 Standard Edition, version 1.4.2_08 for Microsoft Windows
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> extracting eclipse and run... AND THIS BUG EXTIST:
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> If i delete from file, file size will same, don't be smaller!
> Read top link about this bug.
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> How can it possible?
> I have new Windows XP install, all works perfectly expect Eclipse.
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>
> Hama
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| Re: Biggest Eclipse bug still exist! PC reinstall + clean install = STILL! [message #328189 is a reply to message #328164] |
Fri, 16 May 2008 15:43 |
 Derek Lac
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Registered: July 2009 |
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I would reproduce it myself. However you have to be extremely detail.
For example, I don't know how to get a version of WTP. How did delete
it? Did you use menu or delete key.
By the way, have you tried going to control panel -> system, and
turning off the "screw people up" feature off? Hehehe. No, I couldn't
resist the last part as a joke.
-Derek Lac
> Mr. Hama a écrit :
>> extracting eclipse and run... AND THIS BUG EXTIST:
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>> If i delete from file, file size will same, don't be smaller!
>> Read top link about this bug.
> The best way to get a bug fixed is to open a bug report and provide
> steps to reproduce.
> Since it seems to be easily reproducable, please mention all what you
> have done to get it.
> Now if you are using old versions of Eclipse and WTP, it could be a good
> idea to try to reproduce first on the latest versions.
> Then I would try to reproduce without WTP to try to isolate the problem.
> Once the bug is entered, it will be the good place to track it down.
> Thanks,
> --
> Olivier
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| Re: Biggest Eclipse bug still exist! PC reinstall + clean install = STILL! [message #328199 is a reply to message #328161] |
Fri, 16 May 2008 19:16 |
Steve Blass
Messages: 276
Registered: July 2009 |
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If the file size is the same it would be because the file contents fit
into the same number of file system blocks as the original. (e.g: I type
"hello world" into foobar.txt with notepad and save, it is a 1K file
on my machine. I erase 'world' and save and I still have a 1K file)
If the content you can see doesn't change after you delete something and
save and re-open then that's different but I have never had that kind of
problem with any of the Eclipse editors ever.
-
Steve Blass
Stephen Davison wrote:
> Mr. Hama,
> I've read the history provided by your first link. First let's make sure
> that I understand your complaint. You create a file, type something into
> it, and then save it. Then you open the file, delete some content, and save
> it again. Your complaint is that the file size on the disk has not changed?
>
> I hesitate to offer any futher advice until I'm absolutely sure your problem
> is as I have described it.
>
> Regards,
> Stephen
>
> "Mr. Hama" <hamasaki@citromail.hu> wrote in message
> news:eccc36fc1a287a82a0bfaacc7e6d1697$1@www.eclipse.org...
>> History:
>>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=41027&g roup=eclipse.platform.swt#41027
>>
>> I download from here:
>>
>> http://archive.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R1.5/R-1 .5.5-200708291442/
>> This:
>> wtp-all-in-one-sdk-R-1.5.5-200708291442-win32.zip
>> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/webtools /downloads/drops/R1.5/R-1.5.5-200708291442/wtp-all-in-one-sd k-R-1.5.5-200708291442-win32.zip
>>
>> installing:
>> Sun Java 2 Standard Edition 1.4.2_10
>> Sun Java 2 Standard Edition, version 1.4.2_08 for Microsoft Windows
>>
>> extracting eclipse and run... AND THIS BUG EXTIST:
>>
>> If i delete from file, file size will same, don't be smaller!
>> Read top link about this bug.
>>
>> How can it possible?
>> I have new Windows XP install, all works perfectly expect Eclipse.
>>
>>
>> Hama
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| Re: Biggest Eclipse bug still exist! PC reinstall + clean install = STILL! [message #328263 is a reply to message #328199] |
Tue, 20 May 2008 13:39 |
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Originally posted by: davisons.qwest.com
From the description he gave it certainly read like he didn't understand the
concept of internal fragmentation (aka slack space). I just wanted to make
sure that's what he was really describing.
Regards,
Stephen
"Steve Blass" <sblass@acm.org> wrote in message
news:g0kmjj$hv5$1@build.eclipse.org...
> If the file size is the same it would be because the file contents fit
> into the same number of file system blocks as the original. (e.g: I type
> "hello world" into foobar.txt with notepad and save, it is a 1K file on my
> machine. I erase 'world' and save and I still have a 1K file) If the
> content you can see doesn't change after you delete something and save and
> re-open then that's different but I have never had that kind of problem
> with any of the Eclipse editors ever.
> -
> Steve Blass
>
> Stephen Davison wrote:
>> Mr. Hama,
>> I've read the history provided by your first link. First let's make sure
>> that I understand your complaint. You create a file, type something into
>> it, and then save it. Then you open the file, delete some content, and
>> save it again. Your complaint is that the file size on the disk has not
>> changed?
>>
>> I hesitate to offer any futher advice until I'm absolutely sure your
>> problem is as I have described it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stephen
>>
>> "Mr. Hama" <hamasaki@citromail.hu> wrote in message
>> news:eccc36fc1a287a82a0bfaacc7e6d1697$1@www.eclipse.org...
>>> History:
>>>
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=41027&g roup=eclipse.platform.swt#41027
>>>
>>> I download from here:
>>>
>>> http://archive.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R1.5/R-1 .5.5-200708291442/
>>> This:
>>> wtp-all-in-one-sdk-R-1.5.5-200708291442-win32.zip
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/webtools /downloads/drops/R1.5/R-1.5.5-200708291442/wtp-all-in-one-sd k-R-1.5.5-200708291442-win32.zip
>>>
>>> installing:
>>> Sun Java 2 Standard Edition 1.4.2_10
>>> Sun Java 2 Standard Edition, version 1.4.2_08 for Microsoft Windows
>>>
>>> extracting eclipse and run... AND THIS BUG EXTIST:
>>>
>>> If i delete from file, file size will same, don't be smaller!
>>> Read top link about this bug.
>>>
>>> How can it possible?
>>> I have new Windows XP install, all works perfectly expect Eclipse.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hama
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Biggest Eclipse bug still exist! PC reinstall + clean install = STILL! [message #328279 is a reply to message #328199] |
Tue, 20 May 2008 16:28 |
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Originally posted by: hamasaki.citromail.hu
Hey, hey, hey!
I know what is block size, and i know 1 byte file use for example 32768
byte if this is block size but not this the problem.
If a file have 100 byte length no more data after 100 byte, and you see
100 byte lenght.
After I remove 300 byte from 500 byte text file, i will get 500 byte too...
And after 200 byte content is bugged...
So it's bug.
Steve Blass wrote:
> If the file size is the same it would be because the file contents fit
> into the same number of file system blocks as the original. (e.g: I type
> "hello world" into foobar.txt with notepad and save, it is a 1K file
> on my machine. I erase 'world' and save and I still have a 1K file)
> If the content you can see doesn't change after you delete something and
> save and re-open then that's different but I have never had that kind of
> problem with any of the Eclipse editors ever.
> -
> Steve Blass
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| Re: Biggest Eclipse bug still exist! PC reinstall + clean install = STILL! [message #328300 is a reply to message #328285] |
Wed, 21 May 2008 07:18 |
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Originally posted by: hamasaki.citromail.hu
Steve Blass wrote:
> Does the same thing you have been describing happen when you edit a file
> that has a .txt extension?
Yes of course.
But I found something:
After reboot for 1-2 time have no bug, and AFTER bug again and never will
good again... maybe after for next reboot.
But if I close Eclipse and I start again: bug again... only reboot helps
sometimes.
If only run Eclipse alone, maybe no bug for 1-2 file edit... after bugged
again...
Hard to reproduct... but 99% bugged like now.
My idea: can be bugged only if firefox 3 in memmory?
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| Re: Biggest Eclipse bug still exist! PC reinstall + clean install = STILL! [message #328328 is a reply to message #328320] |
Wed, 21 May 2008 16:28 |
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Originally posted by: hamasaki.citromail.hu
If helps, I made the swf / avi video about this bug. Like open file,
remove lines, reopen file, and the old content exists.
Why noone can help me?
Noone can reproduct this bug?
My current eclipse verison:
Eclipse SDK Version: 3.2.2 - Build id: M20070212-1330
But all version of eclipse have this bug, tested from 3.1 to newest... :(
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| Re: Biggest Eclipse bug still exist! PC reinstall + clean install = STILL! [message #328332 is a reply to message #328328] |
Wed, 21 May 2008 16:55 |
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Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com
Mr. Hama wrote:
> If helps, I made the swf / avi video about this bug. Like open file,
> remove lines, reopen file, and the old content exists.
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> Why noone can help me?
> Noone can reproduct this bug?
That is correct - no one else has reported anything like this; it is
unique to your environment. As I told you when you first posted, this
kind of bug would have been found and fixed a long time ago if it were
consistent for other users. So clearly it is something unique in your
system.
Where it the video you made? That would probably be very helpful to see...
Eric
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