| Don't know what to do... Jasper vs. BIRT [message #146451] |
Tue, 21 March 2006 13:12  |
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Originally posted by: schopra.interaktiv-online.de
Hi @ all !
I'm not sure, for which of the both tools I should decide.
On the one hand BIRT's plugin for eclipse is great - easy to learn, very
flexible, provides sorting, etc.
On the other hand I don't have to install so much things for using
Jasper, I think.
I need just one more information for deciding: What has to be installed
on the client workstation/server to view a BIRT report ? If it's a
little lib, it would be ok, but I don't want to install apache tomcat in
example, just for a few little reports.
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| Re: Don't know what to do... Jasper vs. BIRT [message #146458 is a reply to message #146451] |
Tue, 21 March 2006 13:25  |
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Originally posted by: rebprotizer_2k3.hotmail.com
Hi sabine,
I'm actually working on the two tools for comparing it in my internship.
Birt is very usefull, and very easy-to-use.
Jasper is long to make it running, but it was complete. It contains
generation of crosstabs (not yet for birt).
When Birt can provide crosstabs ?
In concerning export format, Birt is not operationnal for XLS-emitter (not
working with the 2.0.1 version, i will try it with 2.0), the PDF export is
very long but more efficient (for example for the group system, in the PDF
file ther are some bookmarks corresponding to the group expression : very
usefull), is certainly for that Birt PDF export is longer than Jasper one.
I think that Birt is in growing.
Birt is very usefull in a web application, but how can you generate a pdf
file or anyone else from a java code (RCP application) ?
Thank you for your help.
And if you have some comment, we (sabine and me and everybody) are takers.
Luc LABBE
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| Re: Don't know what to do... Jasper vs. BIRT [message #146520 is a reply to message #146458] |
Tue, 21 March 2006 15:07 |
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Originally posted by: m.n.com
> Birt is very usefull in a web application, but how can you generate a
> pdf file or anyone else from a java code (RCP application) ?
Yes. That is what we are doing in our current app. There are examples
in the BIRT documentation on how to generate a PDF.
We have a Web Started Swing client that communicates with the server
(tomcat) via Spring Remoting. We are generating the pdf on the server
(custom web app, not what comes with BIRT - see the BIRT documentation)
and streaming the pdf bytes back. The pdf is displayed on the client
via jPDFViewer. It doesn't require storing a pdf on the client - it
will accept a byte stream. I was also looking at JRex but I wasn't able
to get my question answered in time and getting the code webstarted was
a bit more complicated. However, it is free and it can be done (see
their forum). jPDFViewer (and all other java pdf viewers) is not $0.00.
It was the best priced for our situation and was that fine since I had
spent very little elsewhere. If you have local file access and don't
mind cleaning up temp files you can save the PDF to a directory and use
Adobe Reader to view the file.
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| Re: Don't know what to do... Jasper vs. BIRT [message #146526 is a reply to message #146458] |
Tue, 21 March 2006 15:15 |
 Xiang.Bao
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Hi,
Actually I'm working on simillar things. My project needs to view report
in a Swing-based application, and don't want an extra Tomcat server.
After going thru the APIs, I found BIRT can render to file/outputStream,
Hence we should be able to generate reports to files, both in HTML and PDF.
BTW, I found a XLS-emitter on Internet, but I don't have the link at
hand. Try google it, I think you could find one.It claims to work well with
BIRT 2.1M5.
Hope this helps.
Frank Bao
"Lucho" <rebprotizer_2k3@hotmail.com>
??????:1951930e1828bab28768ac2186e68fb8$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Hi sabine,
>
> I'm actually working on the two tools for comparing it in my internship.
>
> Birt is very usefull, and very easy-to-use.
> Jasper is long to make it running, but it was complete. It contains
> generation of crosstabs (not yet for birt).
> When Birt can provide crosstabs ?
>
> In concerning export format, Birt is not operationnal for XLS-emitter (not
> working with the 2.0.1 version, i will try it with 2.0), the PDF export is
> very long but more efficient (for example for the group system, in the PDF
> file ther are some bookmarks corresponding to the group expression : very
> usefull), is certainly for that Birt PDF export is longer than Jasper one.
>
> I think that Birt is in growing.
>
> Birt is very usefull in a web application, but how can you generate a pdf
> file or anyone else from a java code (RCP application) ?
>
> Thank you for your help.
> And if you have some comment, we (sabine and me and everybody) are takers.
>
> Luc LABBE
>
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| Re: Don't know what to do... Jasper vs. BIRT [message #147129 is a reply to message #146451] |
Wed, 22 March 2006 18:33 |
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Originally posted by: jgould.juniper.net
Hi Sabine,
I've deployed both at different locations and prefer Birt...Although I'm
much happier with the 1.01 version of Birt than the current. The report
creation UI for Birt far exceeds anything availble to Jasper. I've used
the Jasper wysiwyg and found it very unstable. Most of my reports had to
be created in an XML editor.
The plus side of Jasper is the J2EE app. Jasper gives you a much more
complete report presentation structure with the inclusion of admin pages
for managing user/group/report permissions. When I deployed Jasper,
however, that plus became a minus as it didn't support exactly what the
client wanted. So I was forced to dive into the code to make
customizations. Unfortunately, when that happens it is extremely
difficult to upgrade. Birt, on the other hand, give you a J2EE app which
presents reports and parameters only. So it's very easy to customize your
reporting application using the Birt Viewer as a starting point.
Sabine Chopra wrote:
> Hi @ all !
> I'm not sure, for which of the both tools I should decide.
> On the one hand BIRT's plugin for eclipse is great - easy to learn, very
> flexible, provides sorting, etc.
> On the other hand I don't have to install so much things for using
> Jasper, I think.
> I need just one more information for deciding: What has to be installed
> on the client workstation/server to view a BIRT report ? If it's a
> little lib, it would be ok, but I don't want to install apache tomcat in
> example, just for a few little reports.
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| Re: Don't know what to do... Jasper vs. BIRT [message #147449 is a reply to message #147129] |
Thu, 23 March 2006 14:01 |
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Originally posted by: schopra.interaktiv-online.de
Hi Jason,
I've decided in favour of BIRT because it's much more comfortable and it
meets my requirements more than Jasper. It will be a little bit annoying
to install tomcat etc but that's the price :)
Sabine
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| Re: Don't know what to do... Jasper vs. BIRT [message #147498 is a reply to message #147129] |
Thu, 23 March 2006 14:56 |
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Originally posted by: ivanooi.gmail.com
Hi,
I found out BIRT can not arrange data or columns in free style,
everythings must in grid... Controls like oval or rounded rectangle
also not available... probably coming version ?
Please correct me if I miss some features...
Thanks
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| Re: Don't know what to do... Jasper vs. BIRT [message #147694 is a reply to message #147671] |
Fri, 24 March 2006 04:01 |
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Originally posted by: ivanooi.gmail.com
Hi,
Thanks for your repply. No doudts BIRT are a nice free reporting tool
but... nice if those informations can lay down using css and make it
absolute position in HTML... like what Open Office can do in creating
HTML..
Thanks again! Hope to see more features in coming BIRT!
Thanks to all BIRT team
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