| Service release 0.7.2 [message #28307] |
Mon, 04 August 2008 06:07  |
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Originally posted by: alexander.gurov.polarion.org
Hello All,
We have published Subversive service realease 0.7.2. This release supports
usage of important SVN 1.5 features. Unfortunately introducing this
features made new connectors incompatible with the Subversive version
which is included into the Ganymede simultaneous release because SVN 1.5
has major API changes in compare to 1.4 version.
So, we moved Ganymede-related update sites to the following URLs:
connectors to
http://www.polarion.org/projects/subversive/download/eclipse /2.0/ganymede-site/
and integrations to
http://www.polarion.org/projects/subversive/download/integra tions/ganymede-site/
in order to allows installing of the Ganymede's Subversive version.
Also please note that Subversive 0.7.2 contains lot of fixes in compare to
previous release and it is strongly recommended to update your Subversive
instance to the 0.7.2 one.
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| Re: Service release 0.7.2 [message #29211 is a reply to message #29173] |
Tue, 05 August 2008 08:23  |
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Originally posted by: alexander.gurov.polarion.org
Hello Francois,
>Am I the only to find this a bit painful?
No, we also think that the installation process is to hard, but at this
moment this is the best that we can propose. Following is citation from
the bug 241135:
"I agree with you, but unfortunately we have two conflicting requirements:
the first point is that we should provide users with support of the SVN
1.5 features (exactly merge tracking) as soon as possible (because SVN 1.5
is released a few days later than Eclipse Ganymede), the second point is
that we should graduate our project and this step requires a major changes
in the plug-in functionality. We made these changes while implementing SVN
1.5 support, but if we perform release review in order to make 0.8.0
version, we will lose our chance to graduate Subversive in the nearest
time. So, regarding to this situation we should leave existing major and
minor numbers until plug-in is graduated to 1.0.0 version that also will
point to API changes."
Direct link to the bug:
Build 0.7.1 seems broken, invoking abstract methods
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=241135
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| Re: Service release 0.7.2 [message #30014 is a reply to message #29211] |
Wed, 06 August 2008 02:06 |
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Alexander Gurov wrote:
> Hello Francois,
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>> Am I the only to find this a bit painful?
> No, we also think that the installation process is to hard, but at this
> moment this is the best that we can propose.
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> Direct link to the bug:
> Build 0.7.1 seems broken, invoking abstract methods
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=241135
Actually I understand your will to provide users the best possible
experience of SVN by adding 1.5 features ASAP. But IMHO the first rule
is "do not brake the existing installations", even if this implies some
delays.
Thanks for the direct link to the bug, it helps to understand the pros
and cons. As always it's all about trade-off.
Noah Roberts wrote:
> We're not laymen. We're all software developers, right?
Sorry Noah but even if most of us are developers, not all of us.
And the Eclipse foundation is pushing forward the idea that Eclipse
Platform is much more than an IDE.
Regards,
Francois
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| Re: Service release 0.7.2 [message #30694 is a reply to message #30014] |
Thu, 07 August 2008 18:42 |
| Eclipse User |
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Hi all,
I'd like to agree with Francois. I know there's a trade off; I know there
are benefits, and the people who use the advanced features of SVN will
certainly enjoy the new stuff. But these are not certainly all of us. Some
of us are really basic users, who just want to enjoy the simplicity that a
release train like Ganymede offers - download the platform and install
everything you need with a couple of clicks.
By forcing people to lurk newsgroups to know at all times where you want
to move the connectors that should work with the original release, you are
breaking the whole Ganymede experience. Basic users are the ones who end
up screwed. I guess there's not too many of us who just want to connect to
a repository, work on code, and commit it, right?
Besides causing damage to the ones you should satisfy the most, I think
you also broke your commitment to the Eclipse foundation. A release train
only works when each one of the components in it sticks to the build and
update policies, and it seems you have failed to do so. I'm not Ganymede
expert, but isn't the september release supposed to be a maintenance
release, which basically means "No more features; just fix bugs"?
Moreover, why do you call this a "Service Release" and mention at the same
time that you're adding new features?
Thanks a lot for your attention.
-Juan Cadavid
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| Re: Service release 0.7.2 [message #31680 is a reply to message #31503] |
Wed, 13 August 2008 04:14 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: alexander.gurov.polarion.org
Kal Sze wrote:
> I'm using Ganymede and somehow got the Update Manager to update the
> Subversive SVN Connectors and SVN Team Provider plug-ins to
> 2.0.2.I20080801-1500 and 0.7.2.I20080801-1500 respectively.
> Do you mean that these newer versions will fail to operate correctly in
> Ganymede even if they can be installed?
No. The configuration described by you will works fine.
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