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The current download of GEF is not ready for distribution [message #2287] Fri, 17 May 2002 14:57 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: none.ibm.com

The version of GEF which you can download now from the propsal will undergo
some changes.

First, we have not frozen the code yet.
Second, we have not renamed it to be org.eclipse.

The proposal ZIP is an old snapshot of the version that will be distributed
in WSAD 5.0. If you were to ship code based on this proposal, you would be
at risk when users install both WSAD (version 4.0 included) and your product
into the same IDE.

We will probably also adopt the appending of Versions to the plugin
directory like the Workbench is doing. So, the final install directory will
be something like:

org.eclipse.gef_2_0
Re: The current download of GEF is not ready for distribution [message #2406 is a reply to message #2287] Fri, 17 May 2002 16:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stefan Marx is currently offline Stefan MarxFriend
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"Randy Hudson" <none@ibm.com> wrote in news:ac352p$vfn$1@rogue.oti.com:

> The version of GEF which you can download now from the propsal will
> undergo some changes.
>
> First, we have not frozen the code yet.
> Second, we have not renamed it to be org.eclipse.
>
> The proposal ZIP is an old snapshot of the version that will be
> distributed in WSAD 5.0. If you were to ship code based on this
> proposal, you would be at risk when users install both WSAD (version
> 4.0 included) and your product into the same IDE.
>
> We will probably also adopt the appending of Versions to the plugin
> directory like the Workbench is doing. So, the final install
> directory will be something like:
>
> org.eclipse.gef_2_0
>
>
>

What's the timeframe for a stabilized version ?

kind regards

Stefan
Re: The current download of GEF is not ready for distribution [message #2435 is a reply to message #2406] Fri, 17 May 2002 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: none.ibm.com

I would guess around 1 month after Eclipse freezes, or 1 month after WSAD
5.0 development freezes, whichever is later.
WSAD 5.0 is based on Eclipse 2.0, but GEF is essentially a core component
like the rest of Eclipse, so it must freeze early.

"Stefan Marx" <leika.list@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:Xns9211BA94ED7A6leikalistgmxde@204.138.98.10...
> "Randy Hudson" <none@ibm.com> wrote in news:ac352p$vfn$1@rogue.oti.com:
>
> > The version of GEF which you can download now from the propsal will
> > undergo some changes.
> >
> > First, we have not frozen the code yet.
> > Second, we have not renamed it to be org.eclipse.
> >
> > The proposal ZIP is an old snapshot of the version that will be
> > distributed in WSAD 5.0. If you were to ship code based on this
> > proposal, you would be at risk when users install both WSAD (version
> > 4.0 included) and your product into the same IDE.
> >
> > We will probably also adopt the appending of Versions to the plugin
> > directory like the Workbench is doing. So, the final install
> > directory will be something like:
> >
> > org.eclipse.gef_2_0
> >
> >
> >
>
> What's the timeframe for a stabilized version ?
>
> kind regards
>
> Stefan
Re: The current download of GEF is not ready for distribution [message #2464 is a reply to message #2435] Fri, 17 May 2002 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stefan Marx is currently offline Stefan MarxFriend
Messages: 6
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Hi Randy,

Thank you very much for your quick response. But I want to ask another
question. When do you expect a semi-stable version which means packages
renamed to the new structure and a mostly stable featurelist. As I
stated in an previous posting I'm thinking about developing an uml
Application for the moment and it would be nice If I could get an idea
about the rougth timeframe til end of may.

Do you think it's possible to get a look on the new Structure which may
be bug loaded till mid of June ? It would be very nice for my upcoming
considerations.

If you want to discuss any questions per private mail you can reach me
at leika.list@gmx.de or leika@gmx.de.

By Stefan

"Randy Hudson" <none@ibm.com> wrote in news:ac3d12$46d$1@rogue.oti.com:

> I would guess around 1 month after Eclipse freezes, or 1 month after
> WSAD 5.0 development freezes, whichever is later.
> WSAD 5.0 is based on Eclipse 2.0, but GEF is essentially a core
> component like the rest of Eclipse, so it must freeze early.
>
> "Stefan Marx" <leika.list@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:Xns9211BA94ED7A6leikalistgmxde@204.138.98.10...
>> "Randy Hudson" <none@ibm.com> wrote in
>> news:ac352p$vfn$1@rogue.oti.com:
>>
>> > The version of GEF which you can download now from the propsal will
>> > undergo some changes.
>> >
>> > First, we have not frozen the code yet.
>> > Second, we have not renamed it to be org.eclipse.
>> >
>> > The proposal ZIP is an old snapshot of the version that will be
>> > distributed in WSAD 5.0. If you were to ship code based on this
>> > proposal, you would be at risk when users install both WSAD
>> > (version 4.0 included) and your product into the same IDE.
>> >
>> > We will probably also adopt the appending of Versions to the plugin
>> > directory like the Workbench is doing. So, the final install
>> > directory will be something like:
>> >
>> > org.eclipse.gef_2_0
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> What's the timeframe for a stabilized version ?
>>
>> kind regards
>>
>> Stefan
>
>
Re: The current download of GEF is not ready for distribution [message #2494 is a reply to message #2464] Fri, 17 May 2002 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: none.ibm.com

We aren't bug hunting, we're doing accessibility. We are swamped right now
and won't do a rename until probably mid-June.

When the rename does occur, if you have GEF loaded as source, you can
perform the rename yourself using Refactoring. This will have the effect of
fixing ALL of your imports in your project. Then you can delete GEF and
load the renamed one.

I don't think a package rename is a reason to delay development, just
distribution.

"Stefan Marx" <leika.list@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:Xns9211C8A90B7A8leikalistgmxde@204.138.98.10...
> Hi Randy,
>
> Thank you very much for your quick response. But I want to ask another
> question. When do you expect a semi-stable version which means packages
> renamed to the new structure and a mostly stable featurelist. As I
> stated in an previous posting I'm thinking about developing an uml
> Application for the moment and it would be nice If I could get an idea
> about the rougth timeframe til end of may.
>
> Do you think it's possible to get a look on the new Structure which may
> be bug loaded till mid of June ? It would be very nice for my upcoming
> considerations.
>
> If you want to discuss any questions per private mail you can reach me
> at leika.list@gmx.de or leika@gmx.de.
Re: The current download of GEF is not ready for distribution [message #3909 is a reply to message #2287] Thu, 23 May 2002 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeff Duska is currently offline Jeff DuskaFriend
Messages: 71
Registered: July 2009
Member
Randy

I'm sure this is a very newbie question, but doesn't using the naming
org.eclipse.gef_2_0 cause all kinds of problems when you want to upgrade
to say org.eclipse.gef_2_1 or .gef_3_0. If I use import
org.eclipse.gef_2_0 in my code, will this not require a recompile. Thus,
any bug fixes in .gef_2_1 would not be seen by existing programs.

Since you mention that this is being used elsewhere, can you point me to
link explain what I'm missing.

Thanks,

Jeff Duska
Re: The current download of GEF is not ready for distribution [message #3915 is a reply to message #3909] Thu, 23 May 2002 14:19 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: none.ibm.com

> I'm sure this is a very newbie question, but doesn't using the naming
> org.eclipse.gef_2_0 cause all kinds of problems when you want to upgrade

The plugin ID will not change, only the version number.
The physical location of the plugin will be the directory
PLUGINNAME+"_"+VERSION

The allows a user to have different tools which use different versions of
GEF. If GEF always installed to the same location, you would get a
last-one-in wins scenario, along with random resources, etc.
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