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Lomboz and Licensing question [message #24183] Fri, 21 May 2004 11:23 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: tre8426171.aol.com

From the ObjectLearn website it mentions Lomboz is LGPL licensed. In another
section of site the license does not look at all like the LGPL
("redistribute in binary form only")
http://www.objectlearn.com/legal/license.jsp

Several questions come to mind as it relates to the webtools project:
1) Why the differences with the licenses on the objectlearn.com
2) Is there any intent to included Lomboz source within the webtools
project?
- If so, have the licensing issues been thoroughly examined?
2a) If a contributor to a LGPL project contributes source code is there a
contract (or quasi-contract) that the license is to remain LGPL? I've seen
projects change licensing policy, and think they are in error. I heard
Mozilla contacted all contributors prior to changing their license terms. I
feel there's a legal ramification to this (changing license) - the
contributors made the contribution under a specific license, and to change
license perhaps violates this agreement. I've also seen licenses that
specify the copyright is assigned to that organization - which would then
lead me to believe they can change license terms at will. (Not being a
lawyer I'm not even sure contract law is applicable, IP law perhaps, I don't
know.)

Don't take my inquires in the wrong tone. I'm asking these questions so that
any potential issues are resolved early, and hopefully if there are issues
they are made clear to all who might contribute. Hopefully there is no issue
in bringing source from Lomboz or for that matter other LGPL projects to a
CPL project, but I suspect there are issues with doing that?
Re: Lomboz and Licensing question [message #24707 is a reply to message #24183] Sun, 23 May 2004 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Lomboz is currently LGPL and we (ObjectLearn team) have consent from all
contributors to chanage the future licensing (i.e. to CPL / EPL)

"Tim Reilly" <tre8426171@aol.com> wrote in message
news:c8l6cd$ppp$1@eclipse.org...
> From the ObjectLearn website it mentions Lomboz is LGPL licensed. In
another
> section of site the license does not look at all like the LGPL

This is one place we must have missed when we moved to objectweb.. Than you
for pointing it out. It is removed from the site.

> ("redistribute in binary form only")


> Several questions come to mind as it relates to the webtools project:
> 2) Is there any intent to included Lomboz source within the webtools
> project?

Lomboz is one of the proposed contributions to WTP. Lomboz license will
change to CPL/EPL if the WTP proposal is accepted (not a given).

Finally, no contributed code will probably make it as is into WTP, and some
may not make it at all. This is true for Lomboz too. There will be couple
of meetings and reviews before the initial code base and design for EWTP is
established.

> 2a) If a contributor to a LGPL project contributes source code is there a
> contract (or quasi-contract) that the license is to remain LGPL?

To my knowledge we do satify the rules for changing LGPL to EPL/CPL with the
consent of all contributors.

> license perhaps violates this agreement. I've also seen licenses that
> specify the copyright is assigned to that organization

You are confused about "licensing" versus "copyright". You wiil find many
LGPL software which is coprighted to corporatiosn or individuals. Eclispe
is CPL but many parts are copyrighted to IBM, etc.

> in bringing source from Lomboz or for that matter other LGPL projects to a
> CPL project, but I suspect there are issues with doing that?

I am sure there are issues but that is why eclipse, IBM and we do use
lawyers :-)
Re: Lomboz and Licensing question [message #24936 is a reply to message #24707] Tue, 25 May 2004 05:33 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: tre8426171.aol.com

Excellent! That's very good news on all points.

Thanks
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