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| Re: Default Eclipse 3.3/Europa redistribution and org.eclipse.mylyn.team.ui [message #26066 is a reply to message #24121] |
Thu, 06 September 2007 22:06  |
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Originally posted by: beatmik.acm.org
That's correct, the ..mylyn.pde-feature is the bridge to the Eclipse
SDK, even though it is not properly named (we got the repackaging
request from EPP too late in the 2.0 process to rename this feature).
What we need is a separate feature for just the Mylyn team stuff. The
challenge that we are always faced with is that we don't want to force
users to select from a dozen different features because that adds a lot
of complexity to the install. So we break up features as lazily as
possible, and have already had confusion from breaking up IDE and SDK.
However, I could see making the following changes, along the lines of
your suggestion and to more closely line up the Mylyn Bridge features
with the EPP packages:
1) IDE: same as current, core IDE stuff, can be redistributed by CDT
2) JDT: same as current, coupled to JDT
3) PDE: just the PDE stuff
4) Team: team+CVS
This unfortunately still leaves the Ant bridge stuff out, because Ant UI
is coupled to JDT and so it cannot be added to (1) or (4). Depending on
EPP packaging, it may be possible to add it to (2), if not it's not that
bad for it to be available in (3) only, because what's more important is
that more people have access to the Team stuff.
I'd like to consider making this change for 2.1, so please post any
opinions or needs on the bug I just created. I'll Cc the EPP folks as well.
202547: improve packaging of Mylyn features
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=202547
Mik
Mark Phippard wrote:
> Correct me if I am wrong, but when I look at your feature:
>
> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.mylyn/o rg.eclipse
> mylyn.pde-feature/feature.xml?revision=1.23&root=Tools_P roject&view=ma
> rkup&pathrev=R_2_0_0>
>
> I think this is the one that includes the Team stuff. There is no
> <requires>for CVS, but there is for PDE. This is what seems to be the
> problem
> as a lot of people do not have PDE installed but most probably do have
> CVS.
>
> Mark
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| Re: Default Eclipse 3.3/Europa redistribution and org.eclipse.mylyn.team.ui [message #579905 is a reply to message #24121] |
Thu, 06 September 2007 22:06 |
 Mik Kersten
Messages: 287
Registered: July 2009 |
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That's correct, the ..mylyn.pde-feature is the bridge to the Eclipse
SDK, even though it is not properly named (we got the repackaging
request from EPP too late in the 2.0 process to rename this feature).
What we need is a separate feature for just the Mylyn team stuff. The
challenge that we are always faced with is that we don't want to force
users to select from a dozen different features because that adds a lot
of complexity to the install. So we break up features as lazily as
possible, and have already had confusion from breaking up IDE and SDK.
However, I could see making the following changes, along the lines of
your suggestion and to more closely line up the Mylyn Bridge features
with the EPP packages:
1) IDE: same as current, core IDE stuff, can be redistributed by CDT
2) JDT: same as current, coupled to JDT
3) PDE: just the PDE stuff
4) Team: team+CVS
This unfortunately still leaves the Ant bridge stuff out, because Ant UI
is coupled to JDT and so it cannot be added to (1) or (4). Depending on
EPP packaging, it may be possible to add it to (2), if not it's not that
bad for it to be available in (3) only, because what's more important is
that more people have access to the Team stuff.
I'd like to consider making this change for 2.1, so please post any
opinions or needs on the bug I just created. I'll Cc the EPP folks as well.
202547: improve packaging of Mylyn features
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=202547
Mik
Mark Phippard wrote:
> Correct me if I am wrong, but when I look at your feature:
>
> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.mylyn/o rg.eclipse
> mylyn.pde-feature/feature.xml?revision=1.23&root=Tools_P roject&view=ma
> rkup&pathrev=R_2_0_0>
>
> I think this is the one that includes the Team stuff. There is no
> <requires>for CVS, but there is for PDE. This is what seems to be the
> problem
> as a lot of people do not have PDE installed but most probably do have
> CVS.
>
> Mark
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