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Re: HUTN Eclipse / Epsilon [message #1920] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 20:38 |
Louis Rose Messages: 440 Registered: July 2009 Location: York, United Kingdom |
Senior Member |
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Dear Matheiu,
Many thanks for your email.
This looks like it might be a bug. Could you tell me which version of
Epsilon and HUTN you have installed. This information is available from
the Help
I'll see if I can recreate this problem in the morning. It may have been
fixed in the latest release of HUTN (which appeared earlier in the
week), or it may be a regression.
I've included the Epsilon newsgroup in the reply to this post. This is
the recommended place to report bugs, ask questions and request features
as everyone working on and with Epsilon contributes there.
I'll reply again tomorrow, with some more information!
Cheers,
Louis.
Acher Mathieu wrote:
> Dear Louis,
>
> I was in the assistance when you have made your presentation about
HUTN in
> Models conference, Toulouse.
> It was a very interesting work so let me first congratulate you and your
> colleagues...
>
> Although I am not necessary involved with domain specific / generic
> language, I want to test your implementation and especially your tools.
> Indeed, I have some metamodels, and the ability to construct models with
> the HUTN seems very promising.
>
> Thus, I made a few experiences this afternoon, and unfortunately, it
> doesn't work for me... I have downloaded the lastest version of Eclipse,
> Ganymede, incubation version (about 300MB), and made the installation
> using the Update site specified. Here, everything is fine!
>
> I play with the tools -- okay, it seems that the current version is a
> little bit different than the one used for the demo
> (http://www.eclipse.org/gmt/epsilon/cinema/HUTN.htm).
> So, I have registered some ecore-based metamodel, created a HUTN file,
> activated "Enable HUTN Project Nature", and written in HUTN language.
>
> And here is the problem :
> I have always the same error :
> " org.eclipse.epsilon.hutn.exceptions.HutnValidationException: Constraint
> FeatureMustExist not found (47:20)"
>
> I am sure I have written correctly in HUTN.
>
> I even try to use Families metamodel here :
>
http://dev.eclipse.org/viewsvn/index.cgi/trunk/tests/org.ecl ipse.epsilon.hutn.test.dependencies/models/org/eclipse/epsil on/hutn/test/acceptance/models/Families.ecore?view=markup&am p;root=Modeling_EPSILON&pathrev=92
>
> seems that the error is related to EVL :
>
http://dev.eclipse.org/viewsvn/index.cgi/trunk/plugins/org.e clipse.epsilon.hutn.engine/src/org/eclipse/epsilon/hutn/vali dation/model/ValidateIntermediateModel.evl?view=markup&r oot=Modeling_EPSILON&pathrev=92
>
>
> context Slot {
> constraint FeatureMustExist {
> guard: hasSpecificMetamodel() and self.owner.isTypeOf(ClassObject) and
> self.owner.toClass().isDefined() and self.feature.isDefined()
> check: self.owner.toClass().eAllStructuralFeatures.select(c|c.name =
> self.feature).size() = 1
> message: 'Unrecognised feature: ' + self.feature
> }
> }
>
> In the attachment, there are the metamodel and HUTN used
>
> Sorry to disturb you with such a boring problem...
> but maybe you can give me some tips... or some contact (mailing list
?) to
> deal with the problem.
>
> Best regards,
>
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Re: HUTN Eclipse / Epsilon [message #1934 is a reply to message #1920] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 21:06 |
Louis Rose Messages: 440 Registered: July 2009 Location: York, United Kingdom |
Senior Member |
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This should have read...
> This looks like it might be a bug. Could you tell me which version of
> Epsilon and HUTN you have installed. This information is available from
> the
Help menu | About Eclipse Platform menu item, then the Plug-in Details
button.
Apologies for the truncated message; it's been a long day!
Cheers,
Louis.
>
> Acher Mathieu wrote:
> > Dear Louis,
> >
> > I was in the assistance when you have made your presentation about
> HUTN in
> > Models conference, Toulouse.
> > It was a very interesting work so let me first congratulate you and your
> > colleagues...
> >
> > Although I am not necessary involved with domain specific / generic
> > language, I want to test your implementation and especially your tools.
> > Indeed, I have some metamodels, and the ability to construct models with
> > the HUTN seems very promising.
> >
> > Thus, I made a few experiences this afternoon, and unfortunately, it
> > doesn't work for me... I have downloaded the lastest version of Eclipse,
> > Ganymede, incubation version (about 300MB), and made the installation
> > using the Update site specified. Here, everything is fine!
> >
> > I play with the tools -- okay, it seems that the current version is a
> > little bit different than the one used for the demo
> > (http://www.eclipse.org/gmt/epsilon/cinema/HUTN.htm).
> > So, I have registered some ecore-based metamodel, created a HUTN file,
> > activated "Enable HUTN Project Nature", and written in HUTN language.
> >
> > And here is the problem :
> > I have always the same error :
> > " org.eclipse.epsilon.hutn.exceptions.HutnValidationException: Constraint
> > FeatureMustExist not found (47:20)"
> >
> > I am sure I have written correctly in HUTN.
> >
> > I even try to use Families metamodel here :
> >
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewsvn/index.cgi/trunk/tests/org.ecl ipse.epsilon.hutn.test.dependencies/models/org/eclipse/epsil on/hutn/test/acceptance/models/Families.ecore?view=markup&am p;root=Modeling_EPSILON&pathrev=92
>
> >
> > seems that the error is related to EVL :
> >
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewsvn/index.cgi/trunk/plugins/org.e clipse.epsilon.hutn.engine/src/org/eclipse/epsilon/hutn/vali dation/model/ValidateIntermediateModel.evl?view=markup&r oot=Modeling_EPSILON&pathrev=92
>
> >
> >
> > context Slot {
> > constraint FeatureMustExist {
> > guard: hasSpecificMetamodel() and
> self.owner.isTypeOf(ClassObject) and
> > self.owner.toClass().isDefined() and self.feature.isDefined()
> > check:
> self.owner.toClass().eAllStructuralFeatures.select(c|c.name =
> > self.feature).size() = 1
> > message: 'Unrecognised feature: ' + self.feature
> > }
> > }
> >
> > In the attachment, there are the metamodel and HUTN used
> >
> > Sorry to disturb you with such a boring problem...
> > but maybe you can give me some tips... or some contact (mailing list
> ?) to
> > deal with the problem.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
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Re: HUTN Eclipse / Epsilon [message #1949 is a reply to message #1934] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 22:55 |
Dimitrios Kolovos Messages: 1776 Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Dear Matheiu,
This is a regression introduced by a small change in EVL. It has now
been fixed in the SVN and I'll be rolling out a new binary version
(0.8.2.1) tomorrow morning.
Thanks for reporting this!
Cheers,
Dimitrios
Louis Rose wrote:
> This should have read...
>
>> This looks like it might be a bug. Could you tell me which version of
>> Epsilon and HUTN you have installed. This information is available from
>> the
>
> Help menu | About Eclipse Platform menu item, then the Plug-in Details
> button.
>
> Apologies for the truncated message; it's been a long day!
>
> Cheers,
> Louis.
>
>>
>> Acher Mathieu wrote:
>> > Dear Louis,
>> >
>> > I was in the assistance when you have made your presentation about
>> HUTN in
>> > Models conference, Toulouse.
>> > It was a very interesting work so let me first congratulate you and
>> your
>> > colleagues...
>> >
>> > Although I am not necessary involved with domain specific / generic
>> > language, I want to test your implementation and especially your
>> tools.
>> > Indeed, I have some metamodels, and the ability to construct models
>> with
>> > the HUTN seems very promising.
>> >
>> > Thus, I made a few experiences this afternoon, and unfortunately, it
>> > doesn't work for me... I have downloaded the lastest version of
>> Eclipse,
>> > Ganymede, incubation version (about 300MB), and made the installation
>> > using the Update site specified. Here, everything is fine!
>> >
>> > I play with the tools -- okay, it seems that the current version is a
>> > little bit different than the one used for the demo
>> > (http://www.eclipse.org/gmt/epsilon/cinema/HUTN.htm).
>> > So, I have registered some ecore-based metamodel, created a HUTN file,
>> > activated "Enable HUTN Project Nature", and written in HUTN language.
>> >
>> > And here is the problem :
>> > I have always the same error :
>> > " org.eclipse.epsilon.hutn.exceptions.HutnValidationException:
>> Constraint
>> > FeatureMustExist not found (47:20)"
>> >
>> > I am sure I have written correctly in HUTN.
>> >
>> > I even try to use Families metamodel here :
>> >
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewsvn/index.cgi/trunk/tests/org.ecl ipse.epsilon.hutn.test.dependencies/models/org/eclipse/epsil on/hutn/test/acceptance/models/Families.ecore?view=markup&am p;root=Modeling_EPSILON&pathrev=92
>>
>> >
>> > seems that the error is related to EVL :
>> >
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewsvn/index.cgi/trunk/plugins/org.e clipse.epsilon.hutn.engine/src/org/eclipse/epsilon/hutn/vali dation/model/ValidateIntermediateModel.evl?view=markup&r oot=Modeling_EPSILON&pathrev=92
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > context Slot {
>> > constraint FeatureMustExist {
>> > guard: hasSpecificMetamodel() and
>> self.owner.isTypeOf(ClassObject) and
>> > self.owner.toClass().isDefined() and self.feature.isDefined()
>> > check:
>> self.owner.toClass().eAllStructuralFeatures.select(c|c.name =
>> > self.feature).size() = 1
>> > message: 'Unrecognised feature: ' + self.feature
>> > }
>> > }
>> >
>> > In the attachment, there are the metamodel and HUTN used
>> >
>> > Sorry to disturb you with such a boring problem...
>> > but maybe you can give me some tips... or some contact (mailing
>> list ?) to
>> > deal with the problem.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
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Re: HUTN Eclipse / Epsilon [message #1963 is a reply to message #1949] |
Mon, 03 November 2008 13:51 |
Dimitrios Kolovos Messages: 1776 Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Dear Matheiu,
0.8.2.1 has been just made available.
Cheers,
Dimitrios
Dimitrios Kolovos wrote:
> Dear Matheiu,
>
> This is a regression introduced by a small change in EVL. It has now
> been fixed in the SVN and I'll be rolling out a new binary version
> (0.8.2.1) tomorrow morning.
>
> Thanks for reporting this!
>
> Cheers,
> Dimitrios
>
> Louis Rose wrote:
>> This should have read...
>>
>>> This looks like it might be a bug. Could you tell me which version of
>>> Epsilon and HUTN you have installed. This information is available from
>>> the
>>
>> Help menu | About Eclipse Platform menu item, then the Plug-in Details
>> button.
>>
>> Apologies for the truncated message; it's been a long day!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Louis.
>>
>>>
>>> Acher Mathieu wrote:
>>> > Dear Louis,
>>> >
>>> > I was in the assistance when you have made your presentation about
>>> HUTN in
>>> > Models conference, Toulouse.
>>> > It was a very interesting work so let me first congratulate you
>>> and your
>>> > colleagues...
>>> >
>>> > Although I am not necessary involved with domain specific / generic
>>> > language, I want to test your implementation and especially your
>>> tools.
>>> > Indeed, I have some metamodels, and the ability to construct
>>> models with
>>> > the HUTN seems very promising.
>>> >
>>> > Thus, I made a few experiences this afternoon, and unfortunately, it
>>> > doesn't work for me... I have downloaded the lastest version of
>>> Eclipse,
>>> > Ganymede, incubation version (about 300MB), and made the installation
>>> > using the Update site specified. Here, everything is fine!
>>> >
>>> > I play with the tools -- okay, it seems that the current version is a
>>> > little bit different than the one used for the demo
>>> > (http://www.eclipse.org/gmt/epsilon/cinema/HUTN.htm).
>>> > So, I have registered some ecore-based metamodel, created a HUTN
>>> file,
>>> > activated "Enable HUTN Project Nature", and written in HUTN language.
>>> >
>>> > And here is the problem :
>>> > I have always the same error :
>>> > " org.eclipse.epsilon.hutn.exceptions.HutnValidationException:
>>> Constraint
>>> > FeatureMustExist not found (47:20)"
>>> >
>>> > I am sure I have written correctly in HUTN.
>>> >
>>> > I even try to use Families metamodel here :
>>> >
>>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewsvn/index.cgi/trunk/tests/org.ecl ipse.epsilon.hutn.test.dependencies/models/org/eclipse/epsil on/hutn/test/acceptance/models/Families.ecore?view=markup&am p;root=Modeling_EPSILON&pathrev=92
>>>
>>> >
>>> > seems that the error is related to EVL :
>>> >
>>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewsvn/index.cgi/trunk/plugins/org.e clipse.epsilon.hutn.engine/src/org/eclipse/epsilon/hutn/vali dation/model/ValidateIntermediateModel.evl?view=markup&r oot=Modeling_EPSILON&pathrev=92
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > context Slot {
>>> > constraint FeatureMustExist {
>>> > guard: hasSpecificMetamodel() and
>>> self.owner.isTypeOf(ClassObject) and
>>> > self.owner.toClass().isDefined() and self.feature.isDefined()
>>> > check:
>>> self.owner.toClass().eAllStructuralFeatures.select(c|c.name =
>>> > self.feature).size() = 1
>>> > message: 'Unrecognised feature: ' + self.feature
>>> > }
>>> > }
>>> >
>>> > In the attachment, there are the metamodel and HUTN used
>>> >
>>> > Sorry to disturb you with such a boring problem...
>>> > but maybe you can give me some tips... or some contact (mailing
>>> list ?) to
>>> > deal with the problem.
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> >
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Re: HUTN Eclipse / Epsilon [message #561381 is a reply to message #1920] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 21:06 |
Louis Rose Messages: 440 Registered: July 2009 Location: York, United Kingdom |
Senior Member |
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This should have read...
> This looks like it might be a bug. Could you tell me which version of
> Epsilon and HUTN you have installed. This information is available from
> the
Help menu | About Eclipse Platform menu item, then the Plug-in Details
button.
Apologies for the truncated message; it's been a long day!
Cheers,
Louis.
>
> Acher Mathieu wrote:
> > Dear Louis,
> >
> > I was in the assistance when you have made your presentation about
> HUTN in
> > Models conference, Toulouse.
> > It was a very interesting work so let me first congratulate you and your
> > colleagues...
> >
> > Although I am not necessary involved with domain specific / generic
> > language, I want to test your implementation and especially your tools.
> > Indeed, I have some metamodels, and the ability to construct models with
> > the HUTN seems very promising.
> >
> > Thus, I made a few experiences this afternoon, and unfortunately, it
> > doesn't work for me... I have downloaded the lastest version of Eclipse,
> > Ganymede, incubation version (about 300MB), and made the installation
> > using the Update site specified. Here, everything is fine!
> >
> > I play with the tools -- okay, it seems that the current version is a
> > little bit different than the one used for the demo
> > (http://www.eclipse.org/gmt/epsilon/cinema/HUTN.htm).
> > So, I have registered some ecore-based metamodel, created a HUTN file,
> > activated "Enable HUTN Project Nature", and written in HUTN language.
> >
> > And here is the problem :
> > I have always the same error :
> > " org.eclipse.epsilon.hutn.exceptions.HutnValidationException: Constraint
> > FeatureMustExist not found (47:20)"
> >
> > I am sure I have written correctly in HUTN.
> >
> > I even try to use Families metamodel here :
> >
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewsvn/index.cgi/trunk/tests/org.ecl ipse.epsilon.hutn.test.dependencies/models/org/eclipse/epsil on/hutn/test/acceptance/models/Families.ecore?view=markup&am p;root=Modeling_EPSILON&pathrev=92
>
> >
> > seems that the error is related to EVL :
> >
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewsvn/index.cgi/trunk/plugins/org.e clipse.epsilon.hutn.engine/src/org/eclipse/epsilon/hutn/vali dation/model/ValidateIntermediateModel.evl?view=markup&r oot=Modeling_EPSILON&pathrev=92
>
> >
> >
> > context Slot {
> > constraint FeatureMustExist {
> > guard: hasSpecificMetamodel() and
> self.owner.isTypeOf(ClassObject) and
> > self.owner.toClass().isDefined() and self.feature.isDefined()
> > check:
> self.owner.toClass().eAllStructuralFeatures.select(c|c.name =
> > self.feature).size() = 1
> > message: 'Unrecognised feature: ' + self.feature
> > }
> > }
> >
> > In the attachment, there are the metamodel and HUTN used
> >
> > Sorry to disturb you with such a boring problem...
> > but maybe you can give me some tips... or some contact (mailing list
> ?) to
> > deal with the problem.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
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Re: HUTN Eclipse / Epsilon [message #561396 is a reply to message #1934] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 22:55 |
Dimitrios Kolovos Messages: 1776 Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Dear Matheiu,
This is a regression introduced by a small change in EVL. It has now
been fixed in the SVN and I'll be rolling out a new binary version
(0.8.2.1) tomorrow morning.
Thanks for reporting this!
Cheers,
Dimitrios
Louis Rose wrote:
> This should have read...
>
>> This looks like it might be a bug. Could you tell me which version of
>> Epsilon and HUTN you have installed. This information is available from
>> the
>
> Help menu | About Eclipse Platform menu item, then the Plug-in Details
> button.
>
> Apologies for the truncated message; it's been a long day!
>
> Cheers,
> Louis.
>
>>
>> Acher Mathieu wrote:
>> > Dear Louis,
>> >
>> > I was in the assistance when you have made your presentation about
>> HUTN in
>> > Models conference, Toulouse.
>> > It was a very interesting work so let me first congratulate you and
>> your
>> > colleagues...
>> >
>> > Although I am not necessary involved with domain specific / generic
>> > language, I want to test your implementation and especially your
>> tools.
>> > Indeed, I have some metamodels, and the ability to construct models
>> with
>> > the HUTN seems very promising.
>> >
>> > Thus, I made a few experiences this afternoon, and unfortunately, it
>> > doesn't work for me... I have downloaded the lastest version of
>> Eclipse,
>> > Ganymede, incubation version (about 300MB), and made the installation
>> > using the Update site specified. Here, everything is fine!
>> >
>> > I play with the tools -- okay, it seems that the current version is a
>> > little bit different than the one used for the demo
>> > (http://www.eclipse.org/gmt/epsilon/cinema/HUTN.htm).
>> > So, I have registered some ecore-based metamodel, created a HUTN file,
>> > activated "Enable HUTN Project Nature", and written in HUTN language.
>> >
>> > And here is the problem :
>> > I have always the same error :
>> > " org.eclipse.epsilon.hutn.exceptions.HutnValidationException:
>> Constraint
>> > FeatureMustExist not found (47:20)"
>> >
>> > I am sure I have written correctly in HUTN.
>> >
>> > I even try to use Families metamodel here :
>> >
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewsvn/index.cgi/trunk/tests/org.ecl ipse.epsilon.hutn.test.dependencies/models/org/eclipse/epsil on/hutn/test/acceptance/models/Families.ecore?view=markup&am p;root=Modeling_EPSILON&pathrev=92
>>
>> >
>> > seems that the error is related to EVL :
>> >
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewsvn/index.cgi/trunk/plugins/org.e clipse.epsilon.hutn.engine/src/org/eclipse/epsilon/hutn/vali dation/model/ValidateIntermediateModel.evl?view=markup&r oot=Modeling_EPSILON&pathrev=92
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > context Slot {
>> > constraint FeatureMustExist {
>> > guard: hasSpecificMetamodel() and
>> self.owner.isTypeOf(ClassObject) and
>> > self.owner.toClass().isDefined() and self.feature.isDefined()
>> > check:
>> self.owner.toClass().eAllStructuralFeatures.select(c|c.name =
>> > self.feature).size() = 1
>> > message: 'Unrecognised feature: ' + self.feature
>> > }
>> > }
>> >
>> > In the attachment, there are the metamodel and HUTN used
>> >
>> > Sorry to disturb you with such a boring problem...
>> > but maybe you can give me some tips... or some contact (mailing
>> list ?) to
>> > deal with the problem.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
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Re: HUTN Eclipse / Epsilon [message #561418 is a reply to message #1949] |
Mon, 03 November 2008 13:51 |
Dimitrios Kolovos Messages: 1776 Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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|
Dear Matheiu,
0.8.2.1 has been just made available.
Cheers,
Dimitrios
Dimitrios Kolovos wrote:
> Dear Matheiu,
>
> This is a regression introduced by a small change in EVL. It has now
> been fixed in the SVN and I'll be rolling out a new binary version
> (0.8.2.1) tomorrow morning.
>
> Thanks for reporting this!
>
> Cheers,
> Dimitrios
>
> Louis Rose wrote:
>> This should have read...
>>
>>> This looks like it might be a bug. Could you tell me which version of
>>> Epsilon and HUTN you have installed. This information is available from
>>> the
>>
>> Help menu | About Eclipse Platform menu item, then the Plug-in Details
>> button.
>>
>> Apologies for the truncated message; it's been a long day!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Louis.
>>
>>>
>>> Acher Mathieu wrote:
>>> > Dear Louis,
>>> >
>>> > I was in the assistance when you have made your presentation about
>>> HUTN in
>>> > Models conference, Toulouse.
>>> > It was a very interesting work so let me first congratulate you
>>> and your
>>> > colleagues...
>>> >
>>> > Although I am not necessary involved with domain specific / generic
>>> > language, I want to test your implementation and especially your
>>> tools.
>>> > Indeed, I have some metamodels, and the ability to construct
>>> models with
>>> > the HUTN seems very promising.
>>> >
>>> > Thus, I made a few experiences this afternoon, and unfortunately, it
>>> > doesn't work for me... I have downloaded the lastest version of
>>> Eclipse,
>>> > Ganymede, incubation version (about 300MB), and made the installation
>>> > using the Update site specified. Here, everything is fine!
>>> >
>>> > I play with the tools -- okay, it seems that the current version is a
>>> > little bit different than the one used for the demo
>>> > (http://www.eclipse.org/gmt/epsilon/cinema/HUTN.htm).
>>> > So, I have registered some ecore-based metamodel, created a HUTN
>>> file,
>>> > activated "Enable HUTN Project Nature", and written in HUTN language.
>>> >
>>> > And here is the problem :
>>> > I have always the same error :
>>> > " org.eclipse.epsilon.hutn.exceptions.HutnValidationException:
>>> Constraint
>>> > FeatureMustExist not found (47:20)"
>>> >
>>> > I am sure I have written correctly in HUTN.
>>> >
>>> > I even try to use Families metamodel here :
>>> >
>>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewsvn/index.cgi/trunk/tests/org.ecl ipse.epsilon.hutn.test.dependencies/models/org/eclipse/epsil on/hutn/test/acceptance/models/Families.ecore?view=markup&am p;root=Modeling_EPSILON&pathrev=92
>>>
>>> >
>>> > seems that the error is related to EVL :
>>> >
>>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewsvn/index.cgi/trunk/plugins/org.e clipse.epsilon.hutn.engine/src/org/eclipse/epsilon/hutn/vali dation/model/ValidateIntermediateModel.evl?view=markup&r oot=Modeling_EPSILON&pathrev=92
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > context Slot {
>>> > constraint FeatureMustExist {
>>> > guard: hasSpecificMetamodel() and
>>> self.owner.isTypeOf(ClassObject) and
>>> > self.owner.toClass().isDefined() and self.feature.isDefined()
>>> > check:
>>> self.owner.toClass().eAllStructuralFeatures.select(c|c.name =
>>> > self.feature).size() = 1
>>> > message: 'Unrecognised feature: ' + self.feature
>>> > }
>>> > }
>>> >
>>> > In the attachment, there are the metamodel and HUTN used
>>> >
>>> > Sorry to disturb you with such a boring problem...
>>> > but maybe you can give me some tips... or some contact (mailing
>>> list ?) to
>>> > deal with the problem.
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> >
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