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what to do with the "download" [message #16585] Tue, 08 March 2005 19:46 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: lamadera.swbell.net

i downloaded the "milestone" build. i have looked everywhere i can think
of to find out what the next step is for that zip file. after giving up
on that route, i followed the "cvs" directions, which by the way indicate
4 nodes where i got only 2, and had no luck with those instructions. after
4.5 mins of ant build, of course i got "build failed", but that was
expected as the directions did not match what i had to work with.

are there some plain, simple english directions for this project located
anywhere?

thank you.
Re: what to do with the "download" [message #16633 is a reply to message #16585] Wed, 09 March 2005 01:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hello,

We're working on detailed install instructions. Here are some hints to
get you going in the meantime.

1. Download and install Eclipse. This will result in a directory called
eclipse located wherever you choose to put it. On Windows, "C:\program
files" is the typical place.

2. Download and install GEF. You want the zip file called
"GEF-runtime-3.0.1.zip." This zip file has files with a directory path
starting at eclipse, so you'll want to unzip it one level above: in
C:\program files if that is where you put your eclipse directory.

3. Download and install BIRT. This build has its files with a directory
path relative to the eclipse plugins directory. (The team plans to
change this in the next milestone to be consistent with GEF and other
Eclipse plugins.) Unzip it into the eclipse/plugins directory.

You can verify the install by checking for the following directories
within eclipse/plugins:

org.eclipse.gef_3.0.1
org.eclipse.birt_0.0.1

And a goodly number of other org.eclipse.birt.* files.

At this point, you should be able to start Eclipse, and work with BIRT
using the information in the tutorial on the BIRT web site:
eclipse.org/birt/tutorial.

- Paul

Paul Rogers
BIRT PMC

cant find it wrote:
> i downloaded the "milestone" build. i have looked everywhere i can
> think of to find out what the next step is for that zip file. after
> giving up on that route, i followed the "cvs" directions, which by the
> way indicate 4 nodes where i got only 2, and had no luck with those
> instructions. after 4.5 mins of ant build, of course i got "build
> failed", but that was expected as the directions did not match what i
> had to work with.
> are there some plain, simple english directions for this project located
> anywhere?
>
> thank you.
>
Re: what to do with the "download" [message #16661 is a reply to message #16633] Wed, 09 March 2005 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: nigel.cook.gmail.com

Paul Rogers wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We're working on detailed install instructions. Here are some hints to
> get you going in the meantime.
>
> 1. Download and install Eclipse. This will result in a directory called
> eclipse located wherever you choose to put it. On Windows, "C:\program
> files" is the typical place.
>
> 2. Download and install GEF. You want the zip file called
> "GEF-runtime-3.0.1.zip." This zip file has files with a directory path
> starting at eclipse, so you'll want to unzip it one level above: in
> C:\program files if that is where you put your eclipse directory.
>
> 3. Download and install BIRT. This build has its files with a directory
> path relative to the eclipse plugins directory. (The team plans to
> change this in the next milestone to be consistent with GEF and other
> Eclipse plugins.) Unzip it into the eclipse/plugins directory.
>
> You can verify the install by checking for the following directories
> within eclipse/plugins:
>
> org.eclipse.gef_3.0.1
> org.eclipse.birt_0.0.1
>
> And a goodly number of other org.eclipse.birt.* files.
>
> At this point, you should be able to start Eclipse, and work with BIRT
> using the information in the tutorial on the BIRT web site:
> eclipse.org/birt/tutorial.
>

For lack of a better place, I'll add my notes here.

1. After first installing BIRT, I did not get the Report perspective, or
the ability to create new Report projects. At the same time, there were
various other 'funnies' going on, such as losing the URL for the Eclipse
Update site.

I hate giving advice without knowing why/how it works, but my solution
was to remove the ../eclipse/configuration directory before starting up.
Since then, I've found that this is NOT a good idea with recent versions
of Eclipse, but the running Eclipse with the "-clean" paramter (i.e.
"eclipse.exe -clean") has the same effect.

This also cleared up problems I've had after installing the EMF packages.

2. I have no idea what caused this, but on two different machines I
found that the /plugins/org.eclipse.birt_0.0.1/plugin.xml file was
unparseable due to a garbage character in the beginning. Seems to be
related to UNICODE somehow, but saving it using a programmer's editor
did the trick for me.

Again, not sure why this happened, or if it is a show-stopper, but it
was coming up in the error log.

Nigel
Re: what to do with the "download" [message #16677 is a reply to message #16661] Wed, 09 March 2005 10:42 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: kkoger.aguirre.com

Nigel Cook wrote:

> Paul Rogers wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> We're working on detailed install instructions. Here are some hints to
>> get you going in the meantime.
>>
>> 1. Download and install Eclipse. This will result in a directory called
>> eclipse located wherever you choose to put it. On Windows, "C:program
>> files" is the typical place.
>>
>> 2. Download and install GEF. You want the zip file called
>> "GEF-runtime-3.0.1.zip." This zip file has files with a directory path
>> starting at eclipse, so you'll want to unzip it one level above: in
>> C:program files if that is where you put your eclipse directory.
>>
>> 3. Download and install BIRT. This build has its files with a directory
>> path relative to the eclipse plugins directory. (The team plans to
>> change this in the next milestone to be consistent with GEF and other
>> Eclipse plugins.) Unzip it into the eclipse/plugins directory.
>>
>> You can verify the install by checking for the following directories
>> within eclipse/plugins:
>>
>> org.eclipse.gef_3.0.1
>> org.eclipse.birt_0.0.1
>>
>> And a goodly number of other org.eclipse.birt.* files.
>>
>> At this point, you should be able to start Eclipse, and work with BIRT
>> using the information in the tutorial on the BIRT web site:
>> eclipse.org/birt/tutorial.
>>

> For lack of a better place, I'll add my notes here.

> 1. After first installing BIRT, I did not get the Report perspective, or
> the ability to create new Report projects. At the same time, there were
> various other 'funnies' going on, such as losing the URL for the Eclipse
> Update site.

> I hate giving advice without knowing why/how it works, but my solution
> was to remove the ../eclipse/configuration directory before starting up.
> Since then, I've found that this is NOT a good idea with recent versions
> of Eclipse, but the running Eclipse with the "-clean" paramter (i.e.
> "eclipse.exe -clean") has the same effect.

> This also cleared up problems I've had after installing the EMF packages.

> 2. I have no idea what caused this, but on two different machines I
> found that the /plugins/org.eclipse.birt_0.0.1/plugin.xml file was
> unparseable due to a garbage character in the beginning. Seems to be
> related to UNICODE somehow, but saving it using a programmer's editor
> did the trick for me.

> Again, not sure why this happened, or if it is a show-stopper, but it
> was coming up in the error log.

> Nigel

I was a bit po'd after screwing with this for several hours so did not
provide details; sorry, I will try to provide more this time in an effort
to be of more assistance in the evolution.

1. using eclipse 3.0.1; NT; have a few other plugins installed with no
problem.
2. verified existence of GEF 3.0.1
3. downloaded the current build of BIRT and unzipped to the
eclipse\plugins directory where other plugins are installed.
4. verified the BIRT (19 I believe)directories
5. restarted Eclipse and was not able to neither change the perspective
nor obtain a Report project.
6. assuming I was missing something, as I do not use Eclipse frequently
but do some, removed the BIRT directories and attempted an install of
plugin from help/software updates to no avail.
7. redid steps 1 thru 5 several times after removing the BIRT directories
from eclipse/plugin

Then, being hardheaded, I decided to d/l a fresh eclipse 3.0.1 and install
along with GEF and BIRT only. End result was the same...no go.

This morning, after reading the post from NIGEL, I ran his eclipse "clean"
approach with the following results.

A. restarted Eclipse and was not able to find Report Design in either
view or perspective.
B. checked New Project and WAS able to find BIRT there, so I created a
junk project.
C. went back and checked View and Perspective and now find BIRT there
bigger than Dallas.
D. have not proceeded beyond this point yet; if other flaky occurances
appear I will report back.

This is rather lengthy, but I hope it provides some value to the Team and
other potential users who may become frustrated and move on. Thank you to
PAUL and NIGEL for their input and speedy responses.
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