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Draw2D or GEF? [message #157237] Mon, 08 November 2004 14:53 Go to next message
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I would like to create a stand-alone application which draws some simple
network diagrams (various simple shapes, with directed connections, and
context information available (as a popup, or in a separate text window)
on each shape and connection if desired). The user should be able to use
both menu actions and selections in the graph itself to cause futher
changes to the graph (for example, showing more graph details around a
selected object, or redrawing the graph entirely around a new "center of
focus"). I seems from readings of various posts that neither Draw2D nor
GEF will necessarily be suitable for me: I have read that Draw2D does not
support a notion of "selection", and I have read that GEF is not supported
outside of Eclipse. Are both of these statements true? If not, does anyone
have any recommendations about the best way to proceed? BTW previous
posts regarding the question about GEF outside of Eclipse have been
answered that it's already been answered in the newsgroup; however the
searches I have done have not been lucky enough to find the answer as
opposed to the numerous questions.

Thank you in advance for any help, and thanks for previous answers to
questions.
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I would like to create a stand-alone
application which draws some simple network diagrams (various simple shapes,
with directed connections, and context information available (as a popup,
or in a separate text window) on each shape and connection if desired).
The user should be able to use both menu actions and selections in the
graph itself to cause futher changes to the graph (for example, showing
more graph details around a selected object, or redrawing the graph entirely
around a new &quot;center of focus&quot;). I seems from readings of various
posts that neither Draw2D nor GEF will necessarily be suitable for me:
I have read that Draw2D does not support a notion of &quot;selection&quot;,
and I have read that GEF is not supported outside of Eclipse. Are both
of these statements true? If not, does anyone have any recommendations
about the best way to proceed? &nbsp;BTW previous posts regarding the question
about GEF outside of Eclipse have been answered that it's already been
answered in the newsgroup; however the searches I have done have not been
lucky enough to find the answer as opposed to the numerous questions.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thank you in advance for any help, and
thanks for previous answers to questions.</font>
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Re: Draw2D or GEF? [message #157267 is a reply to message #157237] Mon, 08 November 2004 15:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: none.us.ibm.com

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Using RCP is supposed to be simple and easy. If it isn't, complain to =
the platform newsgroup. GEF requires RCP to compile. You could try =
hacking the code and removing dependencies.

<gresh@us.ibm.com> wrote in message news:cmo19i$25j$1@eclipse.org...

I would like to create a stand-alone application which draws some =
simple network diagrams (various simple shapes, with directed =
connections, and context information available (as a popup, or in a =
separate text window) on each shape and connection if desired). The user =
should be able to use both menu actions and selections in the graph =
itself to cause futher changes to the graph (for example, showing more =
graph details around a selected object, or redrawing the graph entirely =
around a new "center of focus"). I seems from readings of various posts =
that neither Draw2D nor GEF will necessarily be suitable for me: I have =
read that Draw2D does not support a notion of "selection", and I have =
read that GEF is not supported outside of Eclipse. Are both of these =
statements true? If not, does anyone have any recommendations about the =
best way to proceed? BTW previous posts regarding the question about =
GEF outside of Eclipse have been answered that it's already been =
answered in the newsgroup; however the searches I have done have not =
been lucky enough to find the answer as opposed to the numerous =
questions.=20

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questions.
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Re: Draw2D or GEF? [message #157287 is a reply to message #157237] Mon, 08 November 2004 15:46 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: Lamont_Gilbert.rigidsoftware.com

gresh@us.ibm.com wrote:
>
> I would like to create a stand-alone application which draws some simple
> network diagrams (various simple shapes, with directed connections, and
> context information available (as a popup, or in a separate text window)
> on each shape and connection if desired). The user should be able to use
> both menu actions and selections in the graph itself to cause futher
> changes to the graph (for example, showing more graph details around a
> selected object, or redrawing the graph entirely around a new "center of
> focus"). I seems from readings of various posts that neither Draw2D nor
> GEF will necessarily be suitable for me: I have read that Draw2D does
> not support a notion of "selection", and I have read that GEF is not
> supported outside of Eclipse. Are both of these statements true? If not,
> does anyone have any recommendations about the best way to proceed? BTW
> previous posts regarding the question about GEF outside of Eclipse have
> been answered that it's already been answered in the newsgroup; however
> the searches I have done have not been lucky enough to find the answer
> as opposed to the numerous questions.
>
> Thank you in advance for any help, and thanks for previous answers to
> questions.

Gef uses Draw2d, it does not stand without it. GEF has functionality
over and above Draw2D. IMHO, GEF is what you want here. Many of us
have hopes for stand alone GEF based programs. That is what RCP or Rich
Client Platform is all about. Its about standalone Eclipse programs,
and GEF is one of those that should be useable in standalone fashion
with the RCP. But I have not followed how well GEF is useable in RCP.
Im still transitioning my program to 3.x...

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