| JDK 1.5 [message #147095] |
Wed, 03 March 2004 07:16  |
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Originally posted by: mehaut.xavier.free.fr
Hello,
I would like to know when it is intended to provide a first release of
Eclipse with JDK1.5 (even beta) ?
regards
Xavier
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| Re: JDK 1.5 [message #147321 is a reply to message #147258] |
Thu, 04 March 2004 17:00  |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: mehaut.xavier.free.fr
I agree totally with tom ; If JDK1.5 is available in very few months,
Eclipse should be also ready for it. In my opinion, many refactoring
enhancements or other features which are planned are very fine, but is
less important than havinf the IDE ready to use JDK1.5 when this one will
be available as release. I'm of ones who will use loop, generic, metadata,
autoboxing when it will be available, because these notions are missing
today.
regards
Xavier
> Eons ago, back in the stoneage when Java was new (JDK 1.01 -1.02)
> Visual Cafe was a powerful Java IDE. Many people used it, myself
> included. Then JDK 1.1 arrived with a new event model. Visual Cafe
> took over a year to get their compiler up to speed.
> I and many other were not willing to wait, so we dumped Cafe. I went
> to Kawa (now defunct) because it directly supported whatever JDK I
> wanted to use.
> I love Eclipse. It's by far the best IDE I've seen. However, I am
> concerned with the discussions about how much effort and time it will
> take to get support for 1.5.
> If it takes very long, many users will likely find it necessary to
> look elsewhere for an IDE the provides the language support they
> require.
> JMO.
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 12:14:51 +0100, "Philippe Mulet"
> <philippe_mulet@fr.ibm.com> wrote:
> >Please also check the following bug report which contains some update on
> >this front:
> >https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36938
> >
> >
> >"xavier" <mehaut.xavier@free.fr> wrote in message
> >news:c241b9$p59$1@eclipse.org...
> >> I'va found another thread about this subject ;)
> >>
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=7316&gr oup=eclipse.tools.jdt
> >>
> >> > Hello,
> >> > I would like to know when it is intended to provide a first release of
> >> > Eclipse with JDK1.5 (even beta) ?
> >> > regards
> >> > Xavier
> >>
> >>
> >
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| Re: JDK 1.5 [message #147329 is a reply to message #147258] |
Thu, 04 March 2004 18:58 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: ian.REMOVE.locut.THIS.us
Tom wrote:
> If it takes very long, many users will likely find it necessary to
> look elsewhere for an IDE the provides the language support they
> require.
I would add my voice to those urging the Eclipse team to consider
support for 1.5 features to be *the* highest priority. As it stands,
Eclipse risks the erosion of its current userbase.
Java 1.5 features like Generics are the killer app for Java IDEs, and I
fear many will consider them more valuable than the many benefits
Eclipse offers, which is a shame as Eclipse is an incredible piece of
software :-/
Ian.
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| Re: JDK 1.5 [message #147359 is a reply to message #147258] |
Thu, 04 March 2004 23:06 |
 Genady Beryozkin
Messages: 410
Registered: July 2009 |
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One of the difficulties in adding 1.5 support to eclipse is that the
language specification
is not yet complete, and sometimes running "javac" is the only reference.
For example, the JLS proposal for autoboxing does not specify the
process of disambiguating
overloaded method calls. The generics document is quite old, and even if
it describes method
disambiguation, you know nothing about how that works together with
autoboxing.
I agree that JDK 1.5 support should be top priority, but it looks like
it isn't that simple ...
Genady
Tom wrote:
>Eons ago, back in the stoneage when Java was new (JDK 1.01 -1.02)
>Visual Cafe was a powerful Java IDE. Many people used it, myself
>included. Then JDK 1.1 arrived with a new event model. Visual Cafe
>took over a year to get their compiler up to speed.
>
>I and many other were not willing to wait, so we dumped Cafe. I went
>to Kawa (now defunct) because it directly supported whatever JDK I
>wanted to use.
>
>I love Eclipse. It's by far the best IDE I've seen. However, I am
>concerned with the discussions about how much effort and time it will
>take to get support for 1.5.
>
>If it takes very long, many users will likely find it necessary to
>look elsewhere for an IDE the provides the language support they
>require.
>
>JMO.
>
>On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 12:14:51 +0100, "Philippe Mulet"
><philippe_mulet@fr.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Please also check the following bug report which contains some update on
>>this front:
>>https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36938
>>
>>
>>"xavier" <mehaut.xavier@free.fr> wrote in message
>>news:c241b9$p59$1@eclipse.org...
>>
>>
>>>I'va found another thread about this subject ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=7316&gr oup=eclipse.tools.jdt
>>
>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>I would like to know when it is intended to provide a first release of
>>>>Eclipse with JDK1.5 (even beta) ?
>>>>regards
>>>>Xavier
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
--
Genady Beryozkin
http://www.genady.net/
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| Re: JDK 1.5 [message #147395 is a reply to message #147258] |
Fri, 05 March 2004 01:13 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: bobhicks.adelphia.net
Yup. I believe the Netbeans team is definately going to have 1.5 for NB
3.6. ;-)
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| Re: JDK 1.5 [message #147446 is a reply to message #147258] |
Fri, 05 March 2004 13:01 |
Steven Buroff
Messages: 119
Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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I've written about this before but I can't resist writing again to support
Tom
and urge that 1.5 support be given a very high priority and that every
effort be made to include it in 3.0. Unfortunately, there is a free
competitor
for Eclipse that will support 1.5. Its called netbeans and it comes from
Sun.
I too am a very happy, dedicated Eclipse user and I dread the thought of
switching. Still, if 3.0 comes out without 1.5 support, I'll have to look at
that option very closely.
Java 1.5 is available now so please don't use that as an excuse. I know
its in beta but the basics of the new language features are VERY unlikely
to change.
One more point. If the choice is releasing 3.0 on schedule without 1.5
support or delaying A LITTLE BIT and releasing it with 1.5 support,
I'd vote for the latter. The latest milestone release could be used in the
meantime.
Steve Buroff
"Tom" <tcrosman@wapa.gov> wrote in message
news:bkce40h35j6m43frm92m7rgnm9f2mjsvqs@4ax.com...
> Eons ago, back in the stoneage when Java was new (JDK 1.01 -1.02)
> Visual Cafe was a powerful Java IDE. Many people used it, myself
> included. Then JDK 1.1 arrived with a new event model. Visual Cafe
> took over a year to get their compiler up to speed.
>
> I and many other were not willing to wait, so we dumped Cafe. I went
> to Kawa (now defunct) because it directly supported whatever JDK I
> wanted to use.
>
> I love Eclipse. It's by far the best IDE I've seen. However, I am
> concerned with the discussions about how much effort and time it will
> take to get support for 1.5.
>
> If it takes very long, many users will likely find it necessary to
> look elsewhere for an IDE the provides the language support they
> require.
>
> JMO.
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 12:14:51 +0100, "Philippe Mulet"
> <philippe_mulet@fr.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> >Please also check the following bug report which contains some update on
> >this front:
> >https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36938
> >
> >
> >"xavier" <mehaut.xavier@free.fr> wrote in message
> >news:c241b9$p59$1@eclipse.org...
> >> I'va found another thread about this subject ;)
> >>
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=7316&gr oup=eclipse.tools.j
dt
> >>
> >> > Hello,
> >> > I would like to know when it is intended to provide a first release
of
> >> > Eclipse with JDK1.5 (even beta) ?
> >> > regards
> >> > Xavier
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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| Re: JDK 1.5 [message #156040 is a reply to message #147359] |
Tue, 27 April 2004 06:42 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: wagner.stefan.berlin.de
Hi Genady,
> One of the difficulties in adding 1.5 support to eclipse is that the
> language specification
> is not yet complete, and sometimes running "javac" is the only reference.
I too would like to see an (experimental) version of eclipse for 1.5,
and your argument is the very only one I accept... :)
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| Re: JDK 1.5 [message #156278 is a reply to message #156112] |
Wed, 28 April 2004 09:27 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: wagner.stefan.berlin.de
Hi Philippe,
> Did you miss the post about JDT update for J2SE1.5 : Cheetah04 available ?
> Look a few frames below.
>
Yes - I visited the eclipse - website and didn't find anything.
I didn't thought it could be somehow hidden.
Now I found it but it doesn't plug into my M8 2004-03-26 15:17
Do I need a newer version?
Is it true, that I shouldn't run eclipse on a j2sdk-1.5 itself?
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