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| Re: Actuate's Motives? [message #145 is a reply to message #140] |
Thu, 18 November 2004 03:10   |
Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: ole_ersoy.yahoo.com
Although I'm not an actuate employee, i'd like to take a stab at this from
a Solution Provider Strategy perspective.
Why Open Source a Proprietary Solution that is currently profitable?
A) The open source community is already targeting the solution, thus the
developers of the proprietary solution run the risk of being
outperformed
by the open source community.
Examples: Sun open sourcing Solaris due to competition from Linux
(Fedora)
B) The flip side - Open sourcing a solution and making it popular
in the open source community enables visibility into the Community
plan/roadmap for future capabilities. This enables the original
solution
provider to stop competing with the open source community and to start
planning capabilities that are outside of or improve upon the open
source
capabilities. The great thing about donating to open source is that the
open source developers, given that they like your solution, are now
working
on and improving the solution that your developers know and are used to,
giving you an advantage over other solution providers that have to
integrate
open source technologies in order to stay competitive.
IBM and eclipse is a great example of how to leverage the open source
community. IBM has made large donations and has been a great community
partner, and in return IBM is receiving a great deal of visibility into
the open source solution roadmaps, and best of all IBM is in turn
incorporating the high quality work done by the community into it's own
solutions. Thus it's a win win Baby! IBM was very smart to do this
first,
before Sun or Microsoft. IBM's codebase is now becoming much stronger,
in
addition to developers writing books and evangelizing the technology
making
IBM a good choice for companies looking for commerical support where
alternatives are available.
In short by working together we are able to create more value for our
clients and separate diversify our focus so that we are not all working
on
the same thing.
Jeff Martin wrote:
> Why is Actuate doing BIRT - won't it kill their ReportingEngines
> business? Is this project just a (free) repackaging of ReportingEngines?
> For the sake of argument, could I submit my complete BIRT
> implementation for consideration as the seed for this project?
> Jeff Martin
> 214.513.1636
> http://reportmill.com
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| Re: Actuate's Motives? [message #158 is a reply to message #145] |
Thu, 18 November 2004 13:56 |
 Francois-Xavier Le Louarn
Messages: 8
Registered: July 2009 |
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Yup, those are two of the big arguments for open-sourcing: one can 1)
leverage the open-source community (more dev power, robust
implementations, broader adoption, etc.) and 2) become a reference in a
domain.
There are probably other reasons as well, more market oriented:
.. The Business Intelligence market is going through a major
consolidation phase and the reporting tools are being bought out by the
big players (Hyperion just bought QIQ, Cognos got Frango, etc.);
Actuate's strategy, as a reporting tool expert, is probably to stay on
par by becoming the open source reference and...dramatically reducing
the prices!
.. Actuate's business model is probably shifting (and has to shift)
towards getting more service-based revenues while the license-based
revenues are getting less important. I suspect Actuate's e.Services
consulting organisation is getting bigger every day :)
But I might be way off as well... And we might not know since these are
more like strategic issues.
FX.
Ole a écrit :
> Although I'm not an actuate employee, i'd like to take a stab at this
> from a Solution Provider Strategy perspective.
>
> Why Open Source a Proprietary Solution that is currently profitable?
> A) The open source community is already targeting the solution, thus the
> developers of the proprietary solution run the risk of being outperformed
> by the open source community.
>
> Examples: Sun open sourcing Solaris due to competition from Linux
> (Fedora)
>
> B) The flip side - Open sourcing a solution and making it popular in
> the open source community enables visibility into the Community
> plan/roadmap for future capabilities. This enables the original solution
> provider to stop competing with the open source community and to start
> planning capabilities that are outside of or improve upon the open
> source capabilities. The great thing about donating to open source is
> that the
> open source developers, given that they like your solution, are now
> working
> on and improving the solution that your developers know and are used to,
> giving you an advantage over other solution providers that have to
> integrate
> open source technologies in order to stay competitive.
>
> IBM and eclipse is a great example of how to leverage the open source
> community. IBM has made large donations and has been a great community
> partner, and in return IBM is receiving a great deal of visibility into
> the open source solution roadmaps, and best of all IBM is in turn
> incorporating the high quality work done by the community into it's own
> solutions. Thus it's a win win Baby! IBM was very smart to do this
> first,
> before Sun or Microsoft. IBM's codebase is now becoming much
> stronger, in addition to developers writing books and evangelizing
> the technology making
> IBM a good choice for companies looking for commerical support where
> alternatives are available.
> In short by working together we are able to create more value for our
> clients and separate diversify our focus so that we are not all
> working on
> the same thing.
>
>
>
>
>
> Jeff Martin wrote:
>
>> Why is Actuate doing BIRT - won't it kill their ReportingEngines
>> business? Is this project just a (free) repackaging of ReportingEngines?
>
>
>> For the sake of argument, could I submit my complete BIRT
>> implementation for consideration as the seed for this project?
>
>
>> Jeff Martin
>> 214.513.1636
>> http://reportmill.com
>
>
>
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