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Holger Dehnhardt is currently offline Holger DehnhardtFriend
Messages: 4
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
a lot of the features, which are mentioned in the proposal are similar to
the ones, I _planned_ to integrate into my 'DBClipse' plugin(s). But as I'm
only able to do this kind of work at evening, I didn't get too far until
now. See (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbclipse).

I would like to offer my help in planning and coding, and maybe some
ideas/code from my project is usable.

Holger
Re: Similar Features... [message #90 is a reply to message #89] Fri, 11 March 2005 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: john.graham.sybase.com

Thanks for the offer to help, Holger! I will take a look at dpclipse and get
back to you soon with some ideas about how we can work together on this.

-- John Graham
john.graham@sybase.com
Eclipse DTP

"Holger Dehnhardt" <dehnhardt@snafu.de> wrote in message
news:d0pj0o$mha$1@www.eclipse.org...
>a lot of the features, which are mentioned in the proposal are similar to
> the ones, I _planned_ to integrate into my 'DBClipse' plugin(s). But as
> I'm
> only able to do this kind of work at evening, I didn't get too far until
> now. See (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbclipse).
>
> I would like to offer my help in planning and coding, and maybe some
> ideas/code from my project is usable.
>
> Holger
>
>
Re: Similar Features... [message #115 is a reply to message #90] Fri, 18 March 2005 08:59 Go to previous message
Holger Dehnhardt is currently offline Holger DehnhardtFriend
Messages: 4
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Some more Words about why I started programming these plugins:

- Database Development
I currently work on 2 projects, where all business-logic is implemented with
stored procedures. We use Sybase databases, one ASA for a small department
and one ASE for the rest of our enterprise.
Until now I use text-files to code the procedures, because I did not find
any database-tool, which worked better for me than TextPad (Win) or Kate
(Linux) - both with 'tuned' syntax files.
What I always missed is code-completion, support for CVS etc., a
posssibility to synchronize the scripts with the database, a graphical
debugger, a possibility to compile SPs with all it's dependencies and the
possibility to show the output of query-plans at the right position in a
batch.
In the last month there came up some tools, which support code completion
(DBVisualizer, Datastudio ...) but mostly the support is very basic: No
variables, no objects from other databases, no syntax-dependent completion
and so on.

- Database Administration
Here the situation is a lot better, usually the tools from the db-vendors do
a good job - but:
If you want one tool for different vendors, the functionality often is very
limited.
I've never seen a tool which has the possibility, to show an overview over
all running databases with hints if something is wrong (running out of
disk-space, to much connections...)

As I said before - nothing of the above mentioned features is implemented in
dbclipse, the last thing I was working on was a XML-configurable SQL-Parser
to support different SQL-dialects with one editor. (I fear, this alone will
be a several years project for one programmer...)

Thanks for reading!

Holger

John Graham wrote:

> Thanks for the offer to help, Holger! I will take a look at dpclipse and
> get back to you soon with some ideas about how we can work together on
> this.
>
> -- John Graham
> john.graham@sybase.com
> Eclipse DTP
>
> "Holger Dehnhardt" <dehnhardt@snafu.de> wrote in message
> news:d0pj0o$mha$1@www.eclipse.org...
>>a lot of the features, which are mentioned in the proposal are similar to
>> the ones, I _planned_ to integrate into my 'DBClipse' plugin(s). But as
>> I'm
>> only able to do this kind of work at evening, I didn't get too far until
>> now. See (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbclipse).
>>
>> I would like to offer my help in planning and coding, and maybe some
>> ideas/code from my project is usable.
>>
>> Holger
>>
>>
Re: Similar Features... [message #563942 is a reply to message #89] Fri, 11 March 2005 16:30 Go to previous message
John Graham is currently offline John GrahamFriend
Messages: 183
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Thanks for the offer to help, Holger! I will take a look at dpclipse and get
back to you soon with some ideas about how we can work together on this.

-- John Graham
john.graham@sybase.com
Eclipse DTP

"Holger Dehnhardt" <dehnhardt@snafu.de> wrote in message
news:d0pj0o$mha$1@www.eclipse.org...
>a lot of the features, which are mentioned in the proposal are similar to
> the ones, I _planned_ to integrate into my 'DBClipse' plugin(s). But as
> I'm
> only able to do this kind of work at evening, I didn't get too far until
> now. See (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbclipse).
>
> I would like to offer my help in planning and coding, and maybe some
> ideas/code from my project is usable.
>
> Holger
>
>
Re: Similar Features... [message #564282 is a reply to message #90] Fri, 18 March 2005 08:59 Go to previous message
Holger Dehnhardt is currently offline Holger DehnhardtFriend
Messages: 4
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Some more Words about why I started programming these plugins:

- Database Development
I currently work on 2 projects, where all business-logic is implemented with
stored procedures. We use Sybase databases, one ASA for a small department
and one ASE for the rest of our enterprise.
Until now I use text-files to code the procedures, because I did not find
any database-tool, which worked better for me than TextPad (Win) or Kate
(Linux) - both with 'tuned' syntax files.
What I always missed is code-completion, support for CVS etc., a
posssibility to synchronize the scripts with the database, a graphical
debugger, a possibility to compile SPs with all it's dependencies and the
possibility to show the output of query-plans at the right position in a
batch.
In the last month there came up some tools, which support code completion
(DBVisualizer, Datastudio ...) but mostly the support is very basic: No
variables, no objects from other databases, no syntax-dependent completion
and so on.

- Database Administration
Here the situation is a lot better, usually the tools from the db-vendors do
a good job - but:
If you want one tool for different vendors, the functionality often is very
limited.
I've never seen a tool which has the possibility, to show an overview over
all running databases with hints if something is wrong (running out of
disk-space, to much connections...)

As I said before - nothing of the above mentioned features is implemented in
dbclipse, the last thing I was working on was a XML-configurable SQL-Parser
to support different SQL-dialects with one editor. (I fear, this alone will
be a several years project for one programmer...)

Thanks for reading!

Holger

John Graham wrote:

> Thanks for the offer to help, Holger! I will take a look at dpclipse and
> get back to you soon with some ideas about how we can work together on
> this.
>
> -- John Graham
> john.graham@sybase.com
> Eclipse DTP
>
> "Holger Dehnhardt" <dehnhardt@snafu.de> wrote in message
> news:d0pj0o$mha$1@www.eclipse.org...
>>a lot of the features, which are mentioned in the proposal are similar to
>> the ones, I _planned_ to integrate into my 'DBClipse' plugin(s). But as
>> I'm
>> only able to do this kind of work at evening, I didn't get too far until
>> now. See (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbclipse).
>>
>> I would like to offer my help in planning and coding, and maybe some
>> ideas/code from my project is usable.
>>
>> Holger
>>
>>
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