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| JSP Editor in eclipse 3.0 [message #85729] |
Thu, 14 August 2003 22:25  |
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Originally posted by: jalpesh.bea.com
I know this has probably been beaten up quite a bit before, but I did
not find anything in the newsgroup about it - so here goes.
I have used a bunch of external jsp plugins for eclipse - solareclipse,
lomboz, myeclipseside etc, and none of them match to what a built in jsp
editor would provide. I just tried IDEA 3.0.5 and the built in JSP
Editor in there really rocks. So I was wondering whether there has been
any interest by the eclipse dev-team to include a built in JSP Editor in
the 3.0 release or not.
I would certainly be very happy to see one included.
Thanks,
Jalpesh.
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| Re: JSP Editor in eclipse 3.0 [message #85774 is a reply to message #85744] |
Fri, 15 August 2003 03:58  |
 Wayne Parrott
Messages: 84
Registered: July 2009 |
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Oz,
I believe you have inappropriately associated my organization, Genuitec, and
me with a leadership position on the Web Tools project. While we have
worked very hard to extend and promote Eclipse as a J2EE development
environment, at this time we have no official role on the project or on the
PMC. Just as you, Genuitec has an interest in the direction of the Web
Tools project. Yet, the answers you seek can only be provided by the
project's PMC leadership.
Regards,
Wayne Parrott
Genuitec, LLC
"Oz Kologlu" <oz_ko@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bhh6ls$726$1@eclipse.org...
> Jalpesh,
>
> There is a newsgroup for web development tools ( eclipse.webtools ) on
> this news server.
>
> There is also a webtools project supposedly in progress (
> http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/index.html ) though you would be hard
> pressed to find any signs activity apart from people posing similar
> questions to yourself.
>
> There is definately a requirement for a decent JSP editor. The project
> plan for Eclipse 2.2 ( now renamed to 3.0 ) includes extensions to jdt
> to handle "java like" code (eg scriptlets in jsp's) though I think wdt
> was kicked off to handle these issues.
>
> Wayne Parrot ( of Genuitec ), can you give us any insights on progress?
> I have seen many offers to help but it seems to fall on deaf ears.
>
> Regards
> Oz
>
>
>
> Jalpesh Patadia wrote:
>
> > I know this has probably been beaten up quite a bit before, but I did
> > not find anything in the newsgroup about it - so here goes.
> >
> > I have used a bunch of external jsp plugins for eclipse - solareclipse,
> > lomboz, myeclipseside etc, and none of them match to what a built in jsp
> > editor would provide. I just tried IDEA 3.0.5 and the built in JSP
> > Editor in there really rocks. So I was wondering whether there has been
> > any interest by the eclipse dev-team to include a built in JSP Editor in
> > the 3.0 release or not.
> >
> > I would certainly be very happy to see one included.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jalpesh.
> >
>
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| Re: JSP Editor in eclipse 3.0 [message #85819 is a reply to message #85774] |
Fri, 15 August 2003 06:01 |
Oz
Messages: 8
Registered: July 2009 |
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Wayne,
Thank you for the response. I was indeed under the false inpression that
Genuitec is on the project commitee and a leader in the Web Tools
development effort.
I have been evaluating myecliseide and I think its a good product. I
hope you can offer your expertise in the Web Tools project.
Lack of response to offers of help seems to be an issue with the
developer community at large.
As a member of the eclipse consortium perhaps you can offer some a
contact for people to realise their creative efforts.
Regards.
Oz
Wayne Parrott wrote:
> Oz,
>
>
>
> I believe you have inappropriately associated my organization, Genuitec, and
> me with a leadership position on the Web Tools project. While we have
> worked very hard to extend and promote Eclipse as a J2EE development
> environment, at this time we have no official role on the project or on the
> PMC. Just as you, Genuitec has an interest in the direction of the Web
> Tools project. Yet, the answers you seek can only be provided by the
> project's PMC leadership.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Wayne Parrott
>
> Genuitec, LLC
>
> "Oz Kologlu" <oz_ko@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bhh6ls$726$1@eclipse.org...
>
>>Jalpesh,
>>
>>There is a newsgroup for web development tools ( eclipse.webtools ) on
>>this news server.
>>
>>There is also a webtools project supposedly in progress (
>>http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/index.html ) though you would be hard
>>pressed to find any signs activity apart from people posing similar
>>questions to yourself.
>>
>>There is definately a requirement for a decent JSP editor. The project
>>plan for Eclipse 2.2 ( now renamed to 3.0 ) includes extensions to jdt
>>to handle "java like" code (eg scriptlets in jsp's) though I think wdt
>>was kicked off to handle these issues.
>>
>>Wayne Parrot ( of Genuitec ), can you give us any insights on progress?
>>I have seen many offers to help but it seems to fall on deaf ears.
>>
>>Regards
>>Oz
>>
>>
>>
>>Jalpesh Patadia wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I know this has probably been beaten up quite a bit before, but I did
>>>not find anything in the newsgroup about it - so here goes.
>>>
>>>I have used a bunch of external jsp plugins for eclipse - solareclipse,
>>>lomboz, myeclipseside etc, and none of them match to what a built in jsp
>>>editor would provide. I just tried IDEA 3.0.5 and the built in JSP
>>>Editor in there really rocks. So I was wondering whether there has been
>>>any interest by the eclipse dev-team to include a built in JSP Editor in
>>>the 3.0 release or not.
>>>
>>>I would certainly be very happy to see one included.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Jalpesh.
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: JSP Editor in eclipse 3.0 [message #85834 is a reply to message #85819] |
Fri, 15 August 2003 07:03 |
Emerson Cargnin
Messages: 125
Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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I just sent this message to webtools. But i think that it should be post
here too (sorry for crossposting).
Really J2ee is a wide very world. So I think it could start off with a good
jsp editor : (. One that would not enforcing you to mix a lot with your
project configuration structure adding directories and files like others do.
At least Lomboz, that is the only decent editor out there. I think there
must be a good one in eclipse core. As I'm here, could start with some
sugestions. People, let's start to make it roll, even if Genuitec wants it
to die. I'm not an expert in eclipse plugins, but I would like to help in
any way, maybe be a very very very good reason to learn better. And I
suppose that hundreds of developers out there are willing to it too.
It can have other modules, too. Like a plugin to tomcat. Sorry Sysdeo, yours
are very good, but I think there should exist one opensource to push
competition level : ) And it could have JSP debugging direct at jsp code,
like we have at jbuilder (the best I've seen) or Netbeans, which is
opensource (since 2000) too. I don't want to change to netbeans becouse of
it, since I like too much eclipse IDE. Gonna wait a till more, to see if a
good soul to donate some code to opensource, or having to install the whole
world (like lomboz) just to get code completion in a JSP ??
Of course, a lot of people would want a j2ee plugin too. But I think it's
another story, since there are so many approaches to deal with J2EE helping
tools (since doclets tags or a visual component tool) and so many different
vendors. web specification is a lot narrower than J2ee. This support lack
(JSP/servlet tools at the core) and swing/swt editors are the only missing
points of eclipse, to be the best choice at IDE out there.
"Mart
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| Re: JSP Editor in eclipse 3.0 [message #85936 is a reply to message #85834] |
Fri, 15 August 2003 16:10 |
Wayne Parrott
Messages: 84
Registered: July 2009 |
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See my follow up response on the Web Tools group.
W
"Emerson Cargnin" <echofloripa@bol.com.br> wrote in message
news:bhi03i$mhv$1@eclipse.org...
> I just sent this message to webtools. But i think that it should be post
> here too (sorry for crossposting).
>
> Really J2ee is a wide very world. So I think it could start off with a
good
> jsp editor : (. One that would not enforcing you to mix a lot with your
> project configuration structure adding directories and files like others
do.
> At least Lomboz, that is the only decent editor out there. I think there
> must be a good one in eclipse core. As I'm here, could start with some
> sugestions. People, let's start to make it roll, even if Genuitec wants it
> to die. I'm not an expert in eclipse plugins, but I would like to help in
> any way, maybe be a very very very good reason to learn better. And I
> suppose that hundreds of developers out there are willing to it too.
>
> It can have other modules, too. Like a plugin to tomcat. Sorry Sysdeo,
yours
> are very good, but I think there should exist one opensource to push
> competition level : ) And it could have JSP debugging direct at jsp code,
> like we have at jbuilder (the best I've seen) or Netbeans, which is
> opensource (since 2000) too. I don't want to change to netbeans becouse
of
> it, since I like too much eclipse IDE. Gonna wait a till more, to see if a
> good soul to donate some code to opensource, or having to install the
whole
> world (like lomboz) just to get code completion in a JSP ??
>
> Of course, a lot of people would want a j2ee plugin too. But I think it's
> another story, since there are so many approaches to deal with J2EE
helping
> tools (since doclets tags or a visual component tool) and so many
different
> vendors. web specification is a lot narrower than J2ee. This support lack
> (JSP/servlet tools at the core) and swing/swt editors are the only missing
> points of eclipse, to be the best choice at IDE out there.
>
>
> "Mart
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