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Java UI Development [message #84386] Mon, 11 August 2003 08:39 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: mohan.bv.in.bosch.com

I want to develop forms in Java. Does Eclipse IDE provide functionality
for rapid development of UI Components(Swings) like drag and drop
functionality of components, form editor... as in JBuilder.

If yes how to use such a feature.

Thanks,
Mohan
Re: Java UI Development [message #84434 is a reply to message #84386] Mon, 11 August 2003 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: daniel.megert.gmx.net

mohan bv wrote:

>I want to develop forms in Java. Does Eclipse IDE provide functionality
>for rapid development of UI Components(Swings) like drag and drop
>functionality of components, form editor... as in JBuilder.
>
No.

Dani

>
>If yes how to use such a feature.
>
>Thanks,
>Mohan
>
>
>
Re: Java UI Development [message #84673 is a reply to message #84386] Mon, 11 August 2003 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Francesc Rosés is currently offline Francesc RosésFriend
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Hi,

No in this moment. There are several interesting projects
for provide a form RAD. Look at this plugin repository:
http://eclipse-plugins.2y.net/eclipse/index.jsp

I know several projects (the opinions are only mine):
- SWT GUI Builder: Only SWT. Not tested by me...
[http://www.swtguibuilder.com/index.htm]
- Advanced Eclipse SWT Designer: Only SWT but very interesting (thanks
Konstantin!) [http://www.swt-designer.com/]
- Assisi Eclipse V4ALL Swing: Interesting. IMHO:
+ Poor documentation
+ Inmature
+ May be interesting
[http://sourceforge.net/projects/v4all]
- JBeaver Swing GUI Builder: Is a sepparate app accessible from
an Eclipse Plugin. Is not interesting for me.
[http://www.ratundtat.com/index01.htm?menue=40]
- Scott Stanchfield "Penumbra Project": Swing visual compostion
editor, very, very interesting but in project. No issue date...
See http://eclipsewiki.swiki.net/145
For me, the more interesting Swing project.

[Scott, have you plans to release anything?]

Francesc Rosés

mohan bv wrote:

> I want to develop forms in Java. Does Eclipse IDE provide functionality
> for rapid development of UI Components(Swings) like drag and drop
> functionality of components, form editor... as in JBuilder.

> If yes how to use such a feature.

> Thanks,
> Mohan
Re: Java UI Development [message #85381 is a reply to message #84673] Wed, 13 August 2003 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scott Stanchfield is currently offline Scott StanchfieldFriend
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In article <bh8i6i$ku$1@eclipse.org>, Rosés) says...
> [Scott, have you plans to release anything?]
>
> Francesc Rosés

No plans yet... I've got a demo at work next week (unrelated to
Penumbra), and after that things free up a bit. I'm taking two weeks off
at the start of Sept and plan to dedicate that time to Penumbra.

For the initial release, I'm going to concentrate on just AWT/Swing.
I'll be able to support SWT with the same framework, but I want to get
something out as soon as possible.

I've also been thinking about how the same framework should be able to
support WYSIWYG for HTML, JSP, JSF, Struts w/ pageflows, etc. quite
easily. Not in the initial release, but they should be pretty easy add-
ins, whether I or someone else creates them.

I've been spending a lot of time on the property sheet -- the default
eclipse property sheet isn't flexible enough for some of the things I
want to do, so I've made a copy and extended it. Once I get it "just
right" I'll see if there's any way I can either merge it with the
original or provide it as an alternative opensource property sheet
implementation.

<rant>
I really wish folks wouldn't make so many classes & methods in Eclipse
non-public or final -- I only needed to modify a couple of classes, but
due to the non-public nature of many of the involved classes I had to
copy about 10 classes into my own package... See my "Rules of Reuse"
article at http://javadude.com/articles for more on this. If it's in an
"internal" package, that's already warning that it may change, and if I
depend on it, it's my problem if it changes, so why not just leave it
open to begin with?

No need to reply to this rant, and not intended as flamebait -- just
venting... Grr Arg
</rant>

Hopefully after the first two weeks of Sept I'll at least be able to
post some screen shots (I still want to keep some stuff secret for now).

Take care,
-- Scott

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Re: Java UI Development [message #85585 is a reply to message #85381] Wed, 13 August 2003 22:29 Go to previous message
Francesc Rosés is currently offline Francesc RosésFriend
Messages: 213
Registered: July 2009
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Scott Stanchfield wrote:

> No plans yet... I've got a demo at work next week (unrelated to
> Penumbra), and after that things free up a bit. I'm taking two weeks off
> at the start of Sept and plan to dedicate that time to Penumbra.

Thanks for your info, Scott!

> <rant>
> I really wish folks wouldn't make so many classes & methods in Eclipse
> non-public or final -- I only needed to modify a couple of classes, but
> due to the non-public nature of many of the involved classes I had to
> copy about 10 classes into my own package... See my "Rules of Reuse"
> article at http://javadude.com/articles for more on this. If it's in an
> "internal" package, that's already warning that it may change, and if I
> depend on it, it's my problem if it changes, so why not just leave it
> open to begin with?

> No need to reply to this rant, and not intended as flamebait -- just
> venting... Grr Arg
> </rant>

I AGREE! Please read the article :)

> ============================================================ =Scott
Stanchfield scott@javadude.com http://javadude.com

> I haven't gotten *any* spam since joining http://knowspam.net!

> Lead author of "Effective VisualAge for Java, Version 3"
> http://javadude.com/evaj
> Visit for Java Enlightenment! http://www.jguru.com
> ============================================================ ==
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