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| Eclipse editor complaints [message #66572] |
Thu, 19 May 2005 13:49  |
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Originally posted by: darld.domain.dom
I've been a bit dismayed at the lack of some basic text editing
functions in eclipse. Maybe someone can set me straight on how to do
some simple editing operations??
Like, how does one select a complete line?
The only way I've found is to position the cursor at the far left and
drag down. That's way too fussy and time-consuming.
I guess the "triple click" is a Mac specific thing but its really nice
to have. All the "home", "end" and shifted combinations only select the
text - not the line. So, when you "cut" you're left with an empty line.
Word selection - "double click" sort of works, but the selection does
not happen until you release the mouse button. This removes any chance
of holding the mouse button and dragging to the next word.
Is there some "modern" editing plugin I can use to make editing more
familiar?
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| Re: Eclipse editor complaints [message #66736 is a reply to message #66657] |
Thu, 19 May 2005 18:58  |
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Originally posted by: adlaiff6.gmail.com
Adam Kiezun wrote:
> see, the problem is the set of "basic text editing functions" is
> completely different.
> The 5ms i spend pressing home and shift+down to select a line does not
> bother me that much. But everyone's different.
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> search bugzilla, there may be requests for this stuff already. if not,
> you're first and you should request them if you want to see them.
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> /adam
While that may be a good solution for you (I use it too--viva vi-style
editing!), I think many users want something more Windows-esque, like
single-click == cursor placement, double-click == word highlight,
triple-click == line/paragraph select.
Alas, I don't know of any plugins. I'm fairly new to eclipse.
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| Re: [OT] Re: Eclipse editor complaints [message #66940 is a reply to message #66848] |
Thu, 19 May 2005 23:47 |
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Originally posted by: tf923.msn.com
Adam Kiezun wrote:
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>> While that may be a good solution for you (I use it too--viva vi-style
>> editing!)
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> No, i don't like linux. It treats the user as the enemy :)
> /adam
Vi is not the same as Linux. I use vi all the time as my Windows XP
editor (gvim) as a replacement for Notepad. Mostly because I used it
back when I learned my first computer which was VMS.
I've never used vi on Linux though.
In vi, to erase a line just press dd. But in Eclipse I have to press
home, home, Shift-downarrow, del. That's five keys for something that
should take two.
--Tim
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| Re: [OT] Re: Eclipse editor complaints [message #67155 is a reply to message #66957] |
Fri, 20 May 2005 18:49 |
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Originally posted by: adlaiff6.gmail.com
Adam Kiezun wrote:
> For me, vi is the embodiment of the linux philosophy. Designed to make
> you feel real cool because your editor takes :q! to exit and only real
> hackers can use it.
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> I've moved on. The times of that culture were in the eighties. Let's
> leave it there.
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> Anyway, de gustibus non est disputandum.
> cheers
> /adam
The point of vi, for me, is not to "feel cool" when I'm using it. The
point is for it to be faster and easier once you take the time to get
used to it. In that way, it's much like the Dvorak keyboard. I don't
use it to be elitist or non-conformist, I use it because if you learn
it, it's easier and faster.
Likewise, cheers.
Leif
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| Re: [OT] Re: Eclipse editor complaints [message #67209 is a reply to message #67155] |
Fri, 20 May 2005 20:44 |
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Originally posted by: dtoland.email.uophx.edu
My perspective is as a developer who has had to do short term contracts on
a variety of platforms without wasting time learning a new editor. I've had
to work with some pretty bare systems, but vi is nearly always available, and
unlike emacs, the editing commands don't change from one system to the next.
Vi is ugly, but I can count on it when all else is either unavailable or would take
too long to install and configure.
And religious debates are pointless anyway.
--
Dave Toland
dave.toland@verizon.net
"Leif Walsh" <adlaiff6@gmail.com> wrote in message news:d6lbkv$ecr$1@news.eclipse.org...
| Adam Kiezun wrote:
| > For me, vi is the embodiment of the linux philosophy. Designed to make
| > you feel real cool because your editor takes :q! to exit and only real
| > hackers can use it.
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| > I've moved on. The times of that culture were in the eighties. Let's
| > leave it there.
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| > Anyway, de gustibus non est disputandum.
| > cheers
| > /adam
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| The point of vi, for me, is not to "feel cool" when I'm using it. The
| point is for it to be faster and easier once you take the time to get
| used to it. In that way, it's much like the Dvorak keyboard. I don't
| use it to be elitist or non-conformist, I use it because if you learn
| it, it's easier and faster.
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| Likewise, cheers.
| Leif
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