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Are there any books about VE? [message #66293] Mon, 11 October 2004 20:29 Go to next message
ronny is currently offline ronnyFriend
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Hello friends,
are there any (Eclipse-)books also about the VE on the market or in
planning?

thnx
spunti
Re: Are there any books about VE? [message #66518 is a reply to message #66293] Tue, 12 October 2004 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Henrik Skovgaard is currently offline Henrik SkovgaardFriend
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> Hello friends,
> are there any (Eclipse-)books also about the VE on the market or in
> planning?

Take a look here: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/eclipse/

/Henrik
Re: Are there any books about VE? [message #66898 is a reply to message #66518] Wed, 13 October 2004 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Henrik Skovgaard wrote:

>> Hello friends,
>> are there any (Eclipse-)books also about the VE on the market or in
>> planning?
>
> Take a look here: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/eclipse/
>
> /Henrik

I'm not quite shure whether there is something about the VEP in it or not.
There is something about GUIs, but perhaps the VEP is too new yet?

spunti
Re: Are there any books about VE? [message #66918 is a reply to message #66293] Wed, 13 October 2004 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Joe Winchester is currently offline Joe WinchesterFriend
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Hi spunti,

> Hello friends,
> are there any (Eclipse-)books also about the VE on the market or in
> planning?

Leaving the media aside, is there any information that isn't currently
in the help system that you'd like to see covered. Do you want more
information on how to use the editor's features, how to build GUIs in
general (including background on Swing and SWT and desgin patterns and
best practices for stuff like error handling and data access), or
information on how to extend the editor ?

Best regards,

Joe Winchester
Re: Are there any books about VE? [message #66943 is a reply to message #66918] Wed, 13 October 2004 12:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ronny is currently offline ronnyFriend
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Joe Winchester wrote:

> Hi spunti,
>
> Leaving the media aside, is there any information that isn't currently
> in the help system that you'd like to see covered. Do you want more
> information on how to use the editor's features, how to build GUIs in
> general (including background on Swing and SWT and desgin patterns and
> best practices for stuff like error handling and data access), or
> information on how to extend the editor ?
>
> Best regards,
> Joe Winchester

OK, leaving the media aside, though it is an important point to be able to
take a book into the bed:-)

I'm new with the VE and also with Swing so I'd like to have a kind of
tutorial in How to Build a GUI with VEP.
I'd like to have an answer to the questions which layout-manager is really
used in practice and is an swt-GUI portable or should I use Swing.

I also have big problems in how to organize my GUI-class structure. There
are a lot of tutorials in the net which show only one class with a nice
layout. But what, if nearly the whole view needs to change? It wasn't so
easy for me to find out how to exchange whole Panels if they are in
different classes.
At first I tried tu put severel Panels out of the JFrame in one class but VE
didn't like that:-) Then I put every visual widget into one class and made
all invisible...

JTables are really strange theme to me. For example it's hard to put just a
new row to a table or get all cells editable with only a single mouse-click
and not a double-click, like a normal Excel-Table.

Extending the VE is not so interesting for me.

regards
spunti
Re: Are there any books about VE? [message #67384 is a reply to message #66943] Mon, 18 October 2004 16:34 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: mendelgili.netscape.net

You can start with links in http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextools.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E /vep-home/WebContent/docs/doc.html

Other papers related to VE are as following:

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/tutorial s/0211_burrus/0211_burrus_reg.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/techjournal/0210 _winchester/winchester.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/techarti cles/0302_winchester/winchester.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/techarti cles/0303_winchester/winchester.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/techjournal/0210 _winchester/winchester.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/techarti cles/0312_winchester/0312_winchester.html
http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=43848&DE=1#RES
http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=43429&DE=1#RES

These are just VE usage kind of thingees; if you want to develop in Swing, you will have to get a good Swing book to
understand its framework. Dropping/Laying up components is 50% of the problem ;-)
Re: Are there any books about VE? [message #601373 is a reply to message #66293] Tue, 12 October 2004 13:06 Go to previous message
Henrik Skovgaard is currently offline Henrik SkovgaardFriend
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> Hello friends,
> are there any (Eclipse-)books also about the VE on the market or in
> planning?

Take a look here: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/eclipse/

/Henrik
Re: Are there any books about VE? [message #601460 is a reply to message #66518] Wed, 13 October 2004 08:24 Go to previous message
ronny is currently offline ronnyFriend
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Henrik Skovgaard wrote:

>> Hello friends,
>> are there any (Eclipse-)books also about the VE on the market or in
>> planning?
>
> Take a look here: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/eclipse/
>
> /Henrik

I'm not quite shure whether there is something about the VEP in it or not.
There is something about GUIs, but perhaps the VEP is too new yet?

spunti
Re: Are there any books about VE? [message #601465 is a reply to message #66293] Wed, 13 October 2004 09:22 Go to previous message
Joe Winchester is currently offline Joe WinchesterFriend
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Hi spunti,

> Hello friends,
> are there any (Eclipse-)books also about the VE on the market or in
> planning?

Leaving the media aside, is there any information that isn't currently
in the help system that you'd like to see covered. Do you want more
information on how to use the editor's features, how to build GUIs in
general (including background on Swing and SWT and desgin patterns and
best practices for stuff like error handling and data access), or
information on how to extend the editor ?

Best regards,

Joe Winchester
Re: Are there any books about VE? [message #601480 is a reply to message #66918] Wed, 13 October 2004 12:53 Go to previous message
ronny is currently offline ronnyFriend
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Joe Winchester wrote:

> Hi spunti,
>
> Leaving the media aside, is there any information that isn't currently
> in the help system that you'd like to see covered. Do you want more
> information on how to use the editor's features, how to build GUIs in
> general (including background on Swing and SWT and desgin patterns and
> best practices for stuff like error handling and data access), or
> information on how to extend the editor ?
>
> Best regards,
> Joe Winchester

OK, leaving the media aside, though it is an important point to be able to
take a book into the bed:-)

I'm new with the VE and also with Swing so I'd like to have a kind of
tutorial in How to Build a GUI with VEP.
I'd like to have an answer to the questions which layout-manager is really
used in practice and is an swt-GUI portable or should I use Swing.

I also have big problems in how to organize my GUI-class structure. There
are a lot of tutorials in the net which show only one class with a nice
layout. But what, if nearly the whole view needs to change? It wasn't so
easy for me to find out how to exchange whole Panels if they are in
different classes.
At first I tried tu put severel Panels out of the JFrame in one class but VE
didn't like that:-) Then I put every visual widget into one class and made
all invisible...

JTables are really strange theme to me. For example it's hard to put just a
new row to a table or get all cells editable with only a single mouse-click
and not a double-click, like a normal Excel-Table.

Extending the VE is not so interesting for me.

regards
spunti
Re: Are there any books about VE? [message #601811 is a reply to message #66943] Mon, 18 October 2004 16:34 Go to previous message
Gili Mendel is currently offline Gili MendelFriend
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You can start with links in http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextools.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E /vep-home/WebContent/docs/doc.html

Other papers related to VE are as following:

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/tutorial s/0211_burrus/0211_burrus_reg.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/techjournal/0210 _winchester/winchester.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/techarti cles/0302_winchester/winchester.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/techarti cles/0303_winchester/winchester.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/techjournal/0210 _winchester/winchester.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/techarti cles/0312_winchester/0312_winchester.html
http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=43848&DE=1#RES
http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=43429&DE=1#RES

These are just VE usage kind of thingees; if you want to develop in Swing, you will have to get a good Swing book to
understand its framework. Dropping/Laying up components is 50% of the problem ;-)
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