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browser component [message #5481] Mon, 30 June 2003 16:04 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: levik.corsis.com

I have seen the idea of a "browser" plugin for eclipse raised a number
of times before, but it seems that with the advent of the Web Tools
Project, the need for such a beast is more pronounced.

(It would be invaluable for such things as previewing an HTML/JSP page
being edited, etc)

My understanding is that currently eclipse uses the IE ActiveX component
on the Windows platforms only and has nothing to fill the gap elswhere.

Has such a component been given serious thought? And if so, is it
planned to use an existing engine (Mozilla?) or create a new one that is
purely java-based?
Re: browser component [message #5488 is a reply to message #5481] Mon, 30 June 2003 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Lev,

I have given a little thought to this and had considered writing an SWT
browser. Having read Java Network Programming, O'Reilly, I found that
Swing components, in-fact, are mostly HTML aware and considered using the
same approach to making SWT components HTML aware.

However, I did not know what the copyright issues to using the Swing
method would be? Does anyone have any ideas as to the best approach or
does Eclipse/IBM already have a solution lurking in the shadows?

Regards,

Joss

lev wrote:

> I have seen the idea of a "browser" plugin for eclipse raised a number
> of times before, but it seems that with the advent of the Web Tools
> Project, the need for such a beast is more pronounced.

> (It would be invaluable for such things as previewing an HTML/JSP page
> being edited, etc)

> My understanding is that currently eclipse uses the IE ActiveX component
> on the Windows platforms only and has nothing to fill the gap elswhere.

> Has such a component been given serious thought? And if so, is it
> planned to use an existing engine (Mozilla?) or create a new one that is
> purely java-based?
Re: browser component [message #5493 is a reply to message #5488] Mon, 30 June 2003 16:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: burner.zclipse.org

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:26:23 +0000, Joss Wright wrote:

> Lev,
>
> I have given a little thought to this and had considered writing an SWT
> browser. Having read Java Network Programming, O'Reilly, I found that
> Swing components, in-fact, are mostly HTML aware and considered using the
> same approach to making SWT components HTML aware.
>
> However, I did not know what the copyright issues to using the Swing
> method would be? Does anyone have any ideas as to the best approach or
> does Eclipse/IBM already have a solution lurking in the shadows?

See: http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36952

It's planned for 3.0.

It would still be nice to have a fully standards compliant browser widget,
I think

mike

>
> Regards,
>
> Joss
>
Re: browser component [message #5499 is a reply to message #5493] Mon, 30 June 2003 18:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: Kevin.clark.accessbc.com.nospam

I remember seeing a plug-in called "Grand Rapids". It was an SWT-based web
browser. I never actually tried it, and I haven't heard of any updates for
a couple months. Might be worth a look though (if you need something now).



Michael R Head wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:26:23 +0000, Joss Wright wrote:

> > Lev,
> >
> > I have given a little thought to this and had considered writing an SWT
> > browser. Having read Java Network Programming, O'Reilly, I found that
> > Swing components, in-fact, are mostly HTML aware and considered using the
> > same approach to making SWT components HTML aware.
> >
> > However, I did not know what the copyright issues to using the Swing
> > method would be? Does anyone have any ideas as to the best approach or
> > does Eclipse/IBM already have a solution lurking in the shadows?

> See: http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36952

> It's planned for 3.0.

> It would still be nice to have a fully standards compliant browser widget,
> I think

> mike

> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Joss
> >
Re: browser component [message #5505 is a reply to message #5499] Mon, 30 June 2003 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Kev,

I'm fairly sure it was a commercial plugin.

Regards,

Joss

Kevbo wrote:

> I remember seeing a plug-in called "Grand Rapids". It was an SWT-based web
> browser. I never actually tried it, and I haven't heard of any updates for
> a couple months. Might be worth a look though (if you need something now).



> Michael R Head wrote:

> > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:26:23 +0000, Joss Wright wrote:

> > > Lev,
> > >
> > > I have given a little thought to this and had considered writing an SWT
> > > browser. Having read Java Network Programming, O'Reilly, I found that
> > > Swing components, in-fact, are mostly HTML aware and considered using the
> > > same approach to making SWT components HTML aware.
> > >
> > > However, I did not know what the copyright issues to using the Swing
> > > method would be? Does anyone have any ideas as to the best approach or
> > > does Eclipse/IBM already have a solution lurking in the shadows?

> > See: http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36952

> > It's planned for 3.0.

> > It would still be nice to have a fully standards compliant browser widget,
> > I think

> > mike

> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Joss
> > >
Re: browser component [message #5509 is a reply to message #5499] Tue, 01 July 2003 01:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
MyEclipse IDE (EA2) recently shipped with JSP and HTML editors that provide
a rendered preview mode capability. Personally, I really like this feature.
MyEclipse has a partnership to use the GrandRapids cross-platform SWT-based
browser component. Check out GrandRapids at
http://www.meyou.com/grandrapid/index.jsp.

Wayne Parrott
MyEclipse Product Manager
www.myeclipseide.com



"Kevbo" <Kevin.clark@accessbc.com.nospam> wrote in message
news:bdqdl8$l56$1@rogue.oti.com...
> I remember seeing a plug-in called "Grand Rapids". It was an SWT-based web
> browser. I never actually tried it, and I haven't heard of any updates for
> a couple months. Might be worth a look though (if you need something now).
>
>
>
> Michael R Head wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:26:23 +0000, Joss Wright wrote:
>
> > > Lev,
> > >
> > > I have given a little thought to this and had considered writing an
SWT
> > > browser. Having read Java Network Programming, O'Reilly, I found that
> > > Swing components, in-fact, are mostly HTML aware and considered using
the
> > > same approach to making SWT components HTML aware.
> > >
> > > However, I did not know what the copyright issues to using the Swing
> > > method would be? Does anyone have any ideas as to the best approach or
> > > does Eclipse/IBM already have a solution lurking in the shadows?
>
> > See: http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36952
>
> > It's planned for 3.0.
>
> > It would still be nice to have a fully standards compliant browser
widget,
> > I think
>
> > mike
>
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Joss
> > >
>
>
>
>
Re: browser component [message #5662 is a reply to message #5509] Tue, 01 July 2003 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
BUT my impression is that grandrapids only runs under Windoze..

Wayne Parrott wrote:
> MyEclipse IDE (EA2) recently shipped with JSP and HTML editors that provide
> a rendered preview mode capability. Personally, I really like this feature.
> MyEclipse has a partnership to use the GrandRapids cross-platform SWT-based
> browser component. Check out GrandRapids at
> http://www.meyou.com/grandrapid/index.jsp.
>
> Wayne Parrott
> MyEclipse Product Manager
> www.myeclipseide.com
>
>
>
> "Kevbo" <Kevin.clark@accessbc.com.nospam> wrote in message
> news:bdqdl8$l56$1@rogue.oti.com...
>
>>I remember seeing a plug-in called "Grand Rapids". It was an SWT-based web
>>browser. I never actually tried it, and I haven't heard of any updates for
>>a couple months. Might be worth a look though (if you need something now).
>>
>>
>>
>>Michael R Head wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:26:23 +0000, Joss Wright wrote:
>>
>>>>Lev,
>>>>
>>>>I have given a little thought to this and had considered writing an
>
> SWT
>
>>>>browser. Having read Java Network Programming, O'Reilly, I found that
>>>>Swing components, in-fact, are mostly HTML aware and considered using
>
> the
>
>>>>same approach to making SWT components HTML aware.
>>>>
>>>>However, I did not know what the copyright issues to using the Swing
>>>>method would be? Does anyone have any ideas as to the best approach or
>>>>does Eclipse/IBM already have a solution lurking in the shadows?
>>
>>>See: http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36952
>>
>>>It's planned for 3.0.
>>
>>>It would still be nice to have a fully standards compliant browser
>
> widget,
>
>>>I think
>>
>>>mike
>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Joss
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: browser component [message #5679 is a reply to message #5662] Tue, 01 July 2003 07:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: rafal.krzewski.caltha.pl

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 12:58:26 +0200, Christian Sell wrote:

> BUT my impression is that grandrapids only runs under Windoze..

Your impression may be right, MyEclipse also runs only under Windows.
I'm really disappointed that they din't make it with Linux support
in EA2.

I think that a Gecko SWT component based on mozilla.org's GRE is
what will save they day for everyone.

R.
Re: browser component [message #5716 is a reply to message #5662] Tue, 01 July 2003 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
I'm testing GrandRapids 1.1.1 integrated into the latest internal MyEclipse
Linux build on Redhat at this very moment. Both run fine under Linux. Look
for the MyEclipse IDE GA release on July 15.

Wayne

"Christian Sell" <cse@dynabean.de> wrote in message
news:bdrphe$r6p$1@rogue.oti.com...
> BUT my impression is that grandrapids only runs under Windoze..
>
> Wayne Parrott wrote:
> > MyEclipse IDE (EA2) recently shipped with JSP and HTML editors that
provide
> > a rendered preview mode capability. Personally, I really like this
feature.
> > MyEclipse has a partnership to use the GrandRapids cross-platform
SWT-based
> > browser component. Check out GrandRapids at
> > http://www.meyou.com/grandrapid/index.jsp.
> >
> > Wayne Parrott
> > MyEclipse Product Manager
> > www.myeclipseide.com
> >
> >
> >
> > "Kevbo" <Kevin.clark@accessbc.com.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:bdqdl8$l56$1@rogue.oti.com...
> >
> >>I remember seeing a plug-in called "Grand Rapids". It was an SWT-based
web
> >>browser. I never actually tried it, and I haven't heard of any updates
for
> >>a couple months. Might be worth a look though (if you need something
now).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Michael R Head wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:26:23 +0000, Joss Wright wrote:
> >>
> >>>>Lev,
> >>>>
> >>>>I have given a little thought to this and had considered writing an
> >
> > SWT
> >
> >>>>browser. Having read Java Network Programming, O'Reilly, I found that
> >>>>Swing components, in-fact, are mostly HTML aware and considered using
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>>same approach to making SWT components HTML aware.
> >>>>
> >>>>However, I did not know what the copyright issues to using the Swing
> >>>>method would be? Does anyone have any ideas as to the best approach or
> >>>>does Eclipse/IBM already have a solution lurking in the shadows?
> >>
> >>>See: http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36952
> >>
> >>>It's planned for 3.0.
> >>
> >>>It would still be nice to have a fully standards compliant browser
> >
> > widget,
> >
> >>>I think
> >>
> >>>mike
> >>
> >>>>Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>Joss
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: browser component [message #5733 is a reply to message #5679] Tue, 01 July 2003 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
We are testing the Linux install now and will have a release at MyEclipse GA
release date (7/15) or before depending upon progress and other priorities.

W

"Rafal Krzewski" <rafal.krzewski@caltha.pl> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.07.01.11.13.55.602882@caltha.pl...
> On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 12:58:26 +0200, Christian Sell wrote:
>
> > BUT my impression is that grandrapids only runs under Windoze..
>
> Your impression may be right, MyEclipse also runs only under Windows.
> I'm really disappointed that they din't make it with Linux support
> in EA2.
>
> I think that a Gecko SWT component based on mozilla.org's GRE is
> what will save they day for everyone.
>
> R.
Re: browser component [message #5751 is a reply to message #5716] Tue, 01 July 2003 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
great. I am looking forward to it..

Wayne Parrott wrote:
> I'm testing GrandRapids 1.1.1 integrated into the latest internal MyEclipse
> Linux build on Redhat at this very moment. Both run fine under Linux. Look
> for the MyEclipse IDE GA release on July 15.
>
> Wayne
>
> "Christian Sell" <cse@dynabean.de> wrote in message
> news:bdrphe$r6p$1@rogue.oti.com...
>
>>BUT my impression is that grandrapids only runs under Windoze..
>>
>>Wayne Parrott wrote:
>>
>>>MyEclipse IDE (EA2) recently shipped with JSP and HTML editors that
>
> provide
>
>>>a rendered preview mode capability. Personally, I really like this
>
> feature.
>
>>>MyEclipse has a partnership to use the GrandRapids cross-platform
>
> SWT-based
>
>>>browser component. Check out GrandRapids at
>>>http://www.meyou.com/grandrapid/index.jsp.
>>>
>>>Wayne Parrott
>>>MyEclipse Product Manager
>>>www.myeclipseide.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kevbo" <Kevin.clark@accessbc.com.nospam> wrote in message
>>>news:bdqdl8$l56$1@rogue.oti.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I remember seeing a plug-in called "Grand Rapids". It was an SWT-based
>
> web
>
>>>>browser. I never actually tried it, and I haven't heard of any updates
>
> for
>
>>>>a couple months. Might be worth a look though (if you need something
>
> now).
>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Michael R Head wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:26:23 +0000, Joss Wright wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>Lev,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have given a little thought to this and had considered writing an
>>>
>>>SWT
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>browser. Having read Java Network Programming, O'Reilly, I found that
>>>>>>Swing components, in-fact, are mostly HTML aware and considered using
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>same approach to making SWT components HTML aware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>However, I did not know what the copyright issues to using the Swing
>>>>>>method would be? Does anyone have any ideas as to the best approach or
>>>>>>does Eclipse/IBM already have a solution lurking in the shadows?
>>>>
>>>>>See: http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36952
>>>>
>>>>>It's planned for 3.0.
>>>>
>>>>>It would still be nice to have a fully standards compliant browser
>>>
>>>widget,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I think
>>>>
>>>>>mike
>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Joss
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: browser component [message #5768 is a reply to message #5481] Tue, 01 July 2003 13:20 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Just for your Info:

The Eclipse Platform Componet SWT (Next Milestone Plan 3.0 M2 July 18, 2003)
includes the implementation of an HTML widget using Mozilla.

So I would recommed the webtools project to get in contact with those people
implemeting it.

Regards - Ren
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