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Different Worspaces with different plugins [message #58444] Mon, 02 June 2003 06:59 Go to next message
Michael Trompertz is currently offline Michael TrompertzFriend
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Hello

is it possible to start Eclipse with different workspaces which have
different sets of plugins? For example: if I need Eclipse for writing
XML-docs I don't need the Java-related plugins and vice versa.
I start Eclipse with the links-folder for the plugins.

regards

Michael
Re: Different Worspaces with different plugins [message #58457 is a reply to message #58444] Mon, 02 June 2003 07:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: stelian.iancu.gmxREMOVE.net

For different workspaces, try starting eclipse with the -data parameter. Eg.
c:\eclipse\eclipse.exe -data c:\workspace1
c:\eclipse\eclipse.exe -data c:\workspace2
etc.

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Regards,
Stelian Iancu

"Michael" <Michael.Trompertz@FeltenGmbH.de> wrote in message
news:bbeskc$vta$1@rogue.oti.com...
> Hello
>
> is it possible to start Eclipse with different workspaces which have
> different sets of plugins? For example: if I need Eclipse for writing
> XML-docs I don't need the Java-related plugins and vice versa.
> I start Eclipse with the links-folder for the plugins.
>
> regards
>
> Michael
>
>
Re: Different Worspaces with different plugins [message #58603 is a reply to message #58457] Mon, 02 June 2003 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Trompertz is currently offline Michael TrompertzFriend
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Thanks for your answer.
But it was not my intention do use different workspaces (I use them, one
for XML, one for Java...). I want to have a different set of plugins for
each workspace. Something like
c:\eclipse\eclipse.exe -data c:\workspace1 -plugin c:\pluginDirectory1
c:\eclipse\eclipse.exe -data c:\workspace2 -plugin c:\pluginDirectory2


Michael


Stelian Iancu wrote:

> For different workspaces, try starting eclipse with the -data parameter. Eg.
> c:\eclipse\eclipse.exe -data c:\workspace1
> c:\eclipse\eclipse.exe -data c:\workspace2
> etc.

> --
> Regards,
> Stelian Iancu

> "Michael" <Michael.Trompertz@FeltenGmbH.de> wrote in message
> news:bbeskc$vta$1@rogue.oti.com...
> > Hello
> >
> > is it possible to start Eclipse with different workspaces which have
> > different sets of plugins? For example: if I need Eclipse for writing
> > XML-docs I don't need the Java-related plugins and vice versa.
> > I start Eclipse with the links-folder for the plugins.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
Re: Different Worspaces with different plugins [message #58701 is a reply to message #58603] Mon, 02 June 2003 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: stelian.iancu.gmx.net

On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:19:37 +0000 (UTC), Michael
<Michael.Trompertz@FeltenGmbH.de> wrote:

> Thanks for your answer.
> But it was not my intention do use different workspaces (I use them, one
> for XML, one for Java...). I want to have a different set of plugins for
> each workspace. Something like c:\eclipse\eclipse.exe -data c:\workspace1
> -plugin c:\pluginDirectory1
> c:\eclipse\eclipse.exe -data c:\workspace2 -plugin c:\pluginDirectory2
>
>
> Michael
>

I guess that, after you start Eclipse, you can go to the Install/Update
Perspective and disable all the features that you don't need.

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Re: Different Worspaces with different plugins [message #58775 is a reply to message #58444] Mon, 02 June 2003 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: bob.objfac.com

I don't think you can. But what's the point? If you organize your work so
that each workspace only uses a given set of plugins, the others won't be
loaded anyway.

Bob

"Michael" <Michael.Trompertz@FeltenGmbH.de> wrote in message
news:bbeskc$vta$1@rogue.oti.com...
> Hello
>
> is it possible to start Eclipse with different workspaces which have
> different sets of plugins? For example: if I need Eclipse for writing
> XML-docs I don't need the Java-related plugins and vice versa.
> I start Eclipse with the links-folder for the plugins.
>
> regards
>
> Michael
>
>
Re: Different Worspaces with different plugins [message #58952 is a reply to message #58775] Mon, 02 June 2003 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Trompertz is currently offline Michael TrompertzFriend
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It's not really a problem. But there are menues and other things I don't
need. And I am not sure about startup time and memory footprint. I think
it's better if only few plugins are loaded.

Michael



Bob Foster wrote:

> I don't think you can. But what's the point? If you organize your work so
> that each workspace only uses a given set of plugins, the others won't be
> loaded anyway.

> Bob

> "Michael" <Michael.Trompertz@FeltenGmbH.de> wrote in message
> news:bbeskc$vta$1@rogue.oti.com...
> > Hello
> >
> > is it possible to start Eclipse with different workspaces which have
> > different sets of plugins? For example: if I need Eclipse for writing
> > XML-docs I don't need the Java-related plugins and vice versa.
> > I start Eclipse with the links-folder for the plugins.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
Re: Different Worspaces with different plugins [message #59129 is a reply to message #58603] Mon, 02 June 2003 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: muelleimer.usenet.katzien.de

* Michael <Michael.Trompertz@FeltenGmbH.de> wrote:
> But it was not my intention do use different workspaces (I use them, one
> for XML, one for Java...). I want to have a different set of plugins for
> each workspace. Something like
> c:\eclipse\eclipse.exe -data c:\workspace1 -plugin c:\pluginDirectory1
> c:\eclipse\eclipse.exe -data c:\workspace2 -plugin c:\pluginDirectory2

See http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36101 for a patch and
some of the 3.0 plan items.

BTW, the 2.1 code still has -plugin as a leftover. You need to point
it to a dir containing the plugin.xml (IIRC...). See
PlatformConfiguration.java in org.eclipse.core.boot (again IIRC..) for
the details...

Jan
Re: Different Worspaces with different plugins [message #59153 is a reply to message #58775] Mon, 02 June 2003 13:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: muelleimer.usenet.katzien.de

* Bob Foster <bob@objfac.com> wrote:
> I don't think you can. But what's the point? If you organize your work so
> that each workspace only uses a given set of plugins, the others won't be
> loaded anyway.

On unix there is also a different usecase: You don't have write
access to the dir containing the eclipse installation. So you
need to handle additional plugins at startup time, which isn't
possible just now (just with a crude hack, which is a leftover
from 1.0 or the patch, which the debian packages use).

-addsite patch:
http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36101

Jan
Re: Different Worspaces with different plugins [message #59173 is a reply to message #58952] Mon, 02 June 2003 14:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: wegener.cboenospam.com

Michael wrote:

> It's not really a problem. But there are menues and other things I don't
> need. And I am not sure about startup time and memory footprint. I think
> it's better if only few plugins are loaded.

> Michael

Eclipse will only load plugins that are accessed. This means that
although the menu items show up, the plugin behind those items isn't
loaded until you select the item. By customizing the perspectives, you
can add and remove many menu items to set things up the way you like them.

I'm curious why you need separate workspaces. A single workspace can
handle multiple projects. You can create custom perspectives to organize
views the way you want them. You can also open multiple windows and use
filters to achieve a multi-workspace kind of feel.



> Bob Foster wrote:

> > I don't think you can. But what's the point? If you organize your work so
> > that each workspace only uses a given set of plugins, the others won't be
> > loaded anyway.

> > Bob

> > "Michael" <Michael.Trompertz@FeltenGmbH.de> wrote in message
> > news:bbeskc$vta$1@rogue.oti.com...
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > is it possible to start Eclipse with different workspaces which have
> > > different sets of plugins? For example: if I need Eclipse for writing
> > > XML-docs I don't need the Java-related plugins and vice versa.
> > > I start Eclipse with the links-folder for the plugins.
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
Re: Different Worspaces with different plugins [message #59790 is a reply to message #58952] Mon, 02 June 2003 21:04 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: Kevin.clark.accessbc.com.nospam

Michael,

Everyone is correct by saying that Eclipse doesn't load those plug-ins
until you access them... But if you -really- want separate plug-ins, there
is a solution: Install two Eclipse instances on the same computer. Then
you can add whatever plug-ins you want to the individual instances.

Or you can wait until 3.0. :-)

Kevin




Michael wrote:

> It's not really a problem. But there are menues and other things I don't
> need. And I am not sure about startup time and memory footprint. I think
> it's better if only few plugins are loaded.

> Michael



> Bob Foster wrote:

> > I don't think you can. But what's the point? If you organize your work so
> > that each workspace only uses a given set of plugins, the others won't be
> > loaded anyway.

> > Bob

> > "Michael" <Michael.Trompertz@FeltenGmbH.de> wrote in message
> > news:bbeskc$vta$1@rogue.oti.com...
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > is it possible to start Eclipse with different workspaces which have
> > > different sets of plugins? For example: if I need Eclipse for writing
> > > XML-docs I don't need the Java-related plugins and vice versa.
> > > I start Eclipse with the links-folder for the plugins.
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
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