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Some questions on how to best develop on top of webtools [message #56983]

Tue, 21 December 2004 12:20

Raphael A. Bauer

Messages: 47
Registered: July 2009

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Hi webtools group,

my task is currently to develop something like a xml editor with xsd
validation / code completion / syntax highlighting / etc for a set of
special xml/xsd combinations + wizards + views etcetcetc for our company.
And - thanks to the eclipse community and the webtools project I found
something very cool - the xml editor built in the webtools project
(org.eclipse.wst.xml.ui). And I definitely want to reuse the webtools
xml editor for our project because I think it's a really cool piece of sw.

I want to integrate it in a similar style like org.eclipse.wst.xsd.ui
does - that means use the core xml editor and extend it with additional
functionality for my needs. I guess that is a fairly good idea
(everybody agrees with that?).

So what is now my question... Okay difficult and probably very easy for
you to answer.

I just want to know how your workspace is organized - or how I should
organize my work best. You use eclipse for development right?
Who is responsible for the cvs stuff. You do it by hand cvs co/ci or is
eclipse handling that? (I want to stay in touch with recent webtools
developments.)

If you do development for a certain part of the webtools project - do
you have all projects of wst checked out? (as one single project in
eclipse - or each project individually?)

How do you organize the build process locally (I learned recently how to
do that from command line with the org.eclipse.wtp.releng tool - and yes
- the build runs, but it fetches everything himself, so I wonder how to
use this tool with my "handfetched" cvs ressources).

I hope these questions are bit precise enough to give you an idea of my
problem - right now I am not sure how to organize my work best. Perhaps
you have as well some additional reading or tutorials on that.

Many thanks in advance,

and great appreciations to the webtools people - I think you are doing a
great software...

Raphael

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Re: Some questions on how to best develop on top of webtools [message #57012 is a reply to message #56983]

Tue, 21 December 2004 13:56

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: christianessl.yahoo.de

> I just want to know how your workspace is organized - or how I should
> organize my work best. You use eclipse for development right?
> Who is responsible for the cvs stuff. You do it by hand cvs co/ci or is
> eclipse handling that? (I want to stay in touch with recent webtools
> developments.)

I am not from the webtools project and not a very experienced
eclipse-developer as well. However I also want to extend the xmleditor a
bit.

To organize my workspace I downloaded the latest integration builds of wst
and installed them. Than I just opened a new Plug-in Project and define in
the plugin.xml under dependencies all the plugins I want to use and or
want to browse the code.

Eclipse than imports all the jars on the buildpath etc.

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Re: Some questions on how to best develop on top of webtools [message #57038 is a reply to message #57012]

Tue, 21 December 2004 14:04

Raphael A. Bauer

Messages: 47
Registered: July 2009

Member

Christian Essl wrote:
>> I just want to know how your workspace is organized - or how I should
>> organize my work best. You use eclipse for development right?
...
> I am not from the webtools project and not a very experienced
> eclipse-developer as well. However I also want to extend the xmleditor a
> bit.
? What do you want to extend?
>
> To organize my workspace I downloaded the latest integration builds of
> wst and installed them. Than I just opened a new Plug-in Project and
> define in the plugin.xml under dependencies all the plugins I want to
> use and or want to browse the code.
>
> Eclipse than imports all the jars on the buildpath etc.
That's a cool idea. I did that as well. But - hmm. The webtools project
is now under heavy (I am right - am I?) development, and so I want to
stay in touch with latest releases. How do you deal with that?
do you build from source from the latest cvs?
Or do you download the Integration builds and manually copy them into
the /plugins directory?
Or is there a way to let eclipse manage to wst cvs stuff in an "easy"
way to compete with the wst development?
Or do I bother too much about this development fact?

Thanks!

Raphael

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Re: Some questions on how to best develop on top of webtools [message #57065 is a reply to message #57038]

Tue, 21 December 2004 15:23

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: christianessl.yahoo.de

> The webtools project
> is now under heavy (I am right - am I?) development, and so I want to
> stay in touch with latest releases. How do you deal with that?
> do you build from source from the latest cvs?
> Or do you download the Integration builds and manually copy them into
> the /plugins directory?

Good questions. I wished I had an answer. That's how I do it:
I installed an extra eclipse3.1 and put in the integration build from 7
days ago. I think when the webtools M2 is out I will install this one
(downloading and replacing manually) and leave it at that until M3.
According to the milestone plan in M2 the xmleditor should be quite
stable. Anyway my brain is already running at full power to understand
what is in M2 and I just can't follow the changes every day or change my
code accordingly. If I could I'd go for nightly builds.

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Re: Some questions on how to best develop on top of webtools [message #57092 is a reply to message #57065]

Tue, 21 December 2004 15:42

Raphael A. Bauer

Messages: 47
Registered: July 2009

Member

Christian Essl wrote:
>> The webtools project is now under heavy (I am right - am I?)
>> development, and so I want to stay in touch with latest releases. How
>> do you deal with that?
....
> Good questions. I wished I had an answer. That's how I do it:
> I installed an extra eclipse3.1 and put in the integration build from 7
> days ago. I think when the webtools M2 is out I will install this one
> (downloading and replacing manually) and leave it at that until M3.
> According to the milestone plan in M2 the xmleditor should be quite
> stable. Anyway my brain is already running at full power to understand
> what is in M2 and I just can't follow the changes every day or change my
> code accordingly. If I could I'd go for nightly builds.
I see - aha - cool. I do it more or less exactly the same way. So we
can't be too wrong (I hope).

But any additional comment will be helpful.

Many thanks,

Raphael

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Re: Some questions on how to best develop on top of webtools [message #57195 is a reply to message #57092]

Wed, 22 December 2004 08:10

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: jmordax.terra.es

Raphael A. Bauer wrote:

> Christian Essl wrote:
>
>>> The webtools project is now under heavy (I am right - am I?)
>>> development, and so I want to stay in touch with latest releases.
>>> How do you deal with that?
>>
> ...
>
>> Good questions. I wished I had an answer. That's how I do it:
>> I installed an extra eclipse3.1 and put in the integration build from
>> 7 days ago. I think when the webtools M2 is out I will install this
>> one (downloading and replacing manually) and leave it at that until
>> M3. According to the milestone plan in M2 the xmleditor should be
>> quite stable. Anyway my brain is already running at full power to
>> understand what is in M2 and I just can't follow the changes every
>> day or change my code accordingly. If I could I'd go for nightly builds.
>
> I see - aha - cool. I do it more or less exactly the same way. So we
> can't be too wrong (I hope).
>
> But any additional comment will be helpful.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Raphael

Well, I understand you can import the projects from CVS directly by Team
Perspective, right? and then each day use this feature to update your
imported projects with the most recent code.

Regards,

Chemi.

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