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What is the relation of WTP and ibm.zip [message #51754] Thu, 04 November 2004 23:19 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: onefolder.sjtu.edu.cn

Hi,

In resource page of WTP, I have found ibm.zip from ibm contribution here and
I test it very good. Here I'd like to know what is the relationship between
WTP and ibm.zip.

Thanks,
Mars
Re: What is the relation of WTP and ibm.zip [message #51785 is a reply to message #51754] Thu, 04 November 2004 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bjorn Freeman-Benson is currently offline Bjorn Freeman-BensonFriend
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> In resource page of WTP, I have found ibm.zip from ibm contribution here
and
> I test it very good. Here I'd like to know what is the relationship
between
> WTP and ibm.zip.

On the WTP website the relationship is described here
http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/main.html but I guess you
already know this fact. Perhaps you could clarify what it is you are asking?

Sincerely,
Bjorn Freeman-Benson
Re: What is the relation of WTP and ibm.zip [message #51808 is a reply to message #51785] Thu, 04 November 2004 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeff Duska is currently offline Jeff DuskaFriend
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Bjorn Freeman-Benson wrote:
>>In resource page of WTP, I have found ibm.zip from ibm contribution here
>
> and
>
>>I test it very good. Here I'd like to know what is the relationship
>
> between
>
>>WTP and ibm.zip.
>
>
> On the WTP website the relationship is described here
> http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/main.html but I guess you
> already know this fact. Perhaps you could clarify what it is you are asking?
>
> Sincerely,
> Bjorn Freeman-Benson
>
>

It might be a good idea to remove the initial contribution section from
http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/main.html. I think most
users are better served using a milestone release. Developers will have
no problem finding the initial contribution section on the download
page. Hopefully they will use CVS instead, so that they are working with
the latest codebase. But that's topic for another day...

In fact, it might not be a bad idea to remove the files from the website
all together, just keeping the zip files in CVS under a folder like
initial_contribution.


Jeff Duska
Re: What is the relation of WTP and ibm.zip [message #51964 is a reply to message #51785] Fri, 05 November 2004 18:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: onefolder.sjtu.edu.cn

"Bjorn Freeman-Benson" <bjorn@superboy.org> wrote in message
news:cmcmft$osa$1@eclipse.org...
> > In resource page of WTP, I have found ibm.zip from ibm contribution here
> and
> > I test it very good. Here I'd like to know what is the relationship
> between
> > WTP and ibm.zip.
>
> On the WTP website the relationship is described here
> http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/main.html but I guess you
> already know this fact. Perhaps you could clarify what it is you are
asking?
>
> Sincerely,
> Bjorn Freeman-Benson
>
>

Initally I supposed the code of ibm.zip should be included in WTP. After I
read this page of
http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/planning/milesto ne_plan_1_0.html, I
come to know WTP is in developing. By comparing CVS files of WTP and those
of ibm.zip, I know that ibm.zip code will be integrated to WTP. As a matter
fact, I am sorry I can't read out the relationship of them in your mentioned
page`.

Thanks,
Mars
Re: What is the relation of WTP and ibm.zip [message #51990 is a reply to message #51964] Fri, 05 November 2004 05:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bjorn Freeman-Benson is currently offline Bjorn Freeman-BensonFriend
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> I am sorry I can't read out the relationship of them in your mentioned
page`.

My apologies. Now I understand what your confusion was. I'm sorry I did not
understand earlier (I'm just too involved in the project to notice the
inconsistencies). Could you suggest a change to the webpages that would
help others understand? Should I make a link from where the downloads are
mentioned to the milestone plan that describes the situation?

Bjorn

P.S. I did not mean to be flippant in my earlier message, although when I
re-read it now, I see that my intent did not come across as well as it
should have. When I said "..., I guess you already know this fact" what I
meant was actually just that - that I respected your knowledge of the files
and CVS structure and that I was sure you already knew the facts I was
stating and that by stating them I wasn't helping you. I was acknowledging
that I wasn't helping and was hoping you could provide more data so that I
could help. I will continue to try to word my replies more clearly.
Re: What is the relation of WTP and ibm.zip [message #52015 is a reply to message #51990] Fri, 05 November 2004 22:44 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: onefolder.sjtu.edu.cn

"Bjorn Freeman-Benson" <bjorn@superboy.org> wrote in message
news:cmf2et$3sp$1@eclipse.org...
> > I am sorry I can't read out the relationship of them in your mentioned
> page`.
>
> My apologies. Now I understand what your confusion was. I'm sorry I did
not
> understand earlier (I'm just too involved in the project to notice the
> inconsistencies). Could you suggest a change to the webpages that would
> help others understand? Should I make a link from where the downloads are
> mentioned to the milestone plan that describes the situation?
>
> Bjorn
>
> P.S. I did not mean to be flippant in my earlier message, although when I
> re-read it now, I see that my intent did not come across as well as it
> should have. When I said "..., I guess you already know this fact" what I
> meant was actually just that - that I respected your knowledge of the
files
> and CVS structure and that I was sure you already knew the facts I was
> stating and that by stating them I wasn't helping you. I was acknowledging
> that I wasn't helping and was hoping you could provide more data so that I
> could help. I will continue to try to word my replies more clearly.
>
>

That's all right. :-)

I think the confusion is caused by lacking explanation of the relationship
between current developing WTP and the initial code at somewhere. For now, I
know initial code is the basic code of WTP, and there has many milestones to
gradually integrate different part of initial code to WTP. Before WTP
becomes mature, we can first try using the initial code to preview some
functions of WTP. If there has such a short notice that I have described, I
think it will be better. I just suggest putting the notice to this page of
http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/main.html, and its position is
above initial code contributions. Just for reference.

Thanks,
Mars
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