| [PRIVACY] - Treatment of Privacy Policy Complaints [message #3202] |
Wed, 13 October 2004 04:03  |
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Originally posted by: ilias.lazaridis.com
I have posted an privacy policy complaint on newsgroup "eclipse.platform" on 2004-09-27.
[ECLIPSE.ORG] - Privacy Policy Violation
http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=29852&g roup=eclipse.platform
Although i've additionally notified the webmaster (2004-10-02) and the eclipse direction (2004-10-06), i did not get any response to this.
Additionally, no correction happend (privacy-policy change notification on eclipse.org home page).
Several issues within eclipse foundation annoy me.
But this here makes me angry.
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I am oversensitive to issues affecting my personal freedom.
Eclipse Foundation should ensure that such issues (affecting a persons freedom and rights) are processed with a highest priority.
I am still awaiting a comment on this.
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http://lazaridis.com
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| Re: [PRIVACY] - Treatment of Privacy Policy Complaints [message #3302 is a reply to message #3266] |
Wed, 13 October 2004 15:34  |
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Originally posted by: richkulp.us.NO_SPAM.ibm.com
One thing might be useful in the notice. What changed? It's hard to tell
without reading the whole thing, and if its been awhile since you read
the old one you have to read it all and determine if it still meets your
privacy concerns. Parsing it all out to determine this is
time-consuming and error-prone. Changes to things like privacy should be
spelled out and not buried in the text.
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Thanks,
Rich Kulp
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| Re: [PRIVACY] - Treatment of Privacy Policy Complaints [message #3665 is a reply to message #3266] |
Thu, 14 October 2004 06:42 |
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Originally posted by: ilias.lazaridis.com
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:15:18 -0400, Rich Main <rich.main@sas.com> wrote:
[moved down into context by ilias]
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> "ilias" <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote in message
> news:opsfsivlmwrp2aut@news.eclipse.org...
>> I have posted an privacy policy complaint on newsgroup "eclipse.platform"
> on 2004-09-27.
>>
>> [ECLIPSE.ORG] - Privacy Policy Violation
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>> http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=29852&g roup=eclipse.platform
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>> Although i've additionally notified the webmaster (2004-10-02) and the
>> eclipse direction (2004-10-06), i did not get any response to this.
>>
>> Additionally, no correction happend (privacy-policy change notification on
>> eclipse.org home page).
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> Ilias -
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> I understand your concerns. However, I do think that appropriate notice of
> the legal documentation updates was posted on http://www.eclipse.org at the
> time that the changes were originally made. See the September 8, 2004 entry
> under the "What's New" banner.
"September 8 - The Eclipse Foundation has begun the process of transitioning from the CPL to the EPL. Read the many new and updated documents associated with the relicensing plan."
source: http://www.eclipse.org [What's New section]
> Was this notice insufficient for some reason?
This notice has no relevance to my privacy case:
The notice refers to:
"September 8"
"CPL to EPL" / "relicensing plan"
"updated documents"
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my complaint refers to:
"September 10"
"Privacy Statement"
"change notification"
"
Notification of Changes
This privacy statement was last updated on September 10, 2004. A notice
will be posted on this Web site home page for thirty (30) days whenever
this privacy statement is changed.
"
source: http://www.eclipse.org/legal/privacy.html
>> Several issues within eclipse foundation annoy me.
>>
>> But this here makes me angry.
Although angry, I've expressed myself carefully:
"Possible Violation:
Missing privacy statement change notification on http://eclipse.org"
source: http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=29852&g roup=eclipse.platform
>> I am oversensitive to issues affecting my personal freedom.
After 2 weeks of seeing eclipse.org essentially ignoring this case, I start to loose my patience.
>> Eclipse Foundation should ensure that such issues (affecting a persons
>> freedom and rights) are processed with a highest priority.
It becomes more and more _unbelievable_ to me, how the Eclipse Foundation treats my complaint.
We are talking here about the Eclipse Foundation, with members like...
*IBM*, *HP*, *Intel*, *Ericson*, *SAP*, *QNX*, ...!
Personally to me, the behaviour of the Foundation reflects directly to its members.
I really don't believe all this!
>> I am still awaiting a comment on this.
Still no comment from the _responsible_ persons!
This is _inacceptable_ !
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I expect at _minimum_ the following information:
- when : [covered: 2004-09-10]
- who : has made the change.
- why : (rationales/justifications for changing the privacy policy)
- what : a clearly visible difference-report of the document
An example for a clear difference-report from netbeans [related to licensing]:
http://www.netbeans.org/about/legal/mpl-spl-ldiff.html
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