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| Re: Galileo - "dropins" folder not working? [message #336585 is a reply to message #336584] | Wed, 24 June 2009 11:19   |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | Hi, 
 Why are you installing the delta pack into your eclipse installation?
 You should create your own target and point PDE to it instead of using
 the running Eclipse-Instance as the target.
 
 Tom
 
 
 Phillipus schrieb:
 > Phillipus wrote:
 >> Phillipus wrote:
 >>> Phillipus wrote:
 >>>> Ed Merks wrote:
 >>>>> Phillipus,
 >>>>>
 >>>>> I'd try running with -clean -debug and looking carefully at what's
 >>>>> in the Error log.  The -debug flag will produce more detailed
 >>>>> messages about why something might fail to activate, i.e.,
 >>>>> unsatisfied range constraints on bundle dependencies...
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Phillipus wrote:
 >>>>>> Just got Eclipse 3.5. Put all my plug-ins in the "dropins" folder
 >>>>>> and they don't show up. No way no how.
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> Am I missing something?
 >>>>
 >>>> Ed, I found out what it is. It's an issue with installing the Delta
 >>>> pack.
 >>>>
 >>>> On Windows:
 >>>>
 >>>> 1. Install a clean Eclipse 3.5
 >>>> 2. Unzip the Delta pack over it.
 >>>> 3. Put some plug-ins in the dropins folder
 >>>>
 >>>> Result - they don't show up in Eclipse.
 >>>>
 >>>> Don't install the Delta pack and it's fine.
 >>>>
 >>>> I'm sure we had this bug in an earlier version of Eclipse.
 >>>>
 >>>> Phillipus
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> Bugbased - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=281353
 >>
 >> In fact, things are worse than that - installing the Delta pack means
 >> that no new plug-ins show up at all, even if they are in the normal
 >> "plugins" folder!
 >>
 >
 > Er, even worser....The Delta pack doesn't show up at all, I think it's
 > screwed. That kind of means no RCP development in 3.5.  Ho hum.
 >
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| Re: Galileo - "dropins" folder not working? [message #336586 is a reply to message #336585] | Wed, 24 June 2009 11:30   |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | Originally posted by: phillipus.nowhere.net 
 Tom Schindl wrote:
 > Hi,
 >
 > Why are you installing the delta pack into your eclipse installation?
 > You should create your own target and point PDE to it instead of using
 > the running Eclipse-Instance as the target.
 >
 > Tom
 >
 >
 > Phillipus schrieb:
 >> Phillipus wrote:
 >>> Phillipus wrote:
 >>>> Phillipus wrote:
 >>>>> Ed Merks wrote:
 >>>>>> Phillipus,
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> I'd try running with -clean -debug and looking carefully at what's
 >>>>>> in the Error log.  The -debug flag will produce more detailed
 >>>>>> messages about why something might fail to activate, i.e.,
 >>>>>> unsatisfied range constraints on bundle dependencies...
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> Phillipus wrote:
 >>>>>>> Just got Eclipse 3.5. Put all my plug-ins in the "dropins" folder
 >>>>>>> and they don't show up. No way no how.
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>> Am I missing something?
 >>>>> Ed, I found out what it is. It's an issue with installing the Delta
 >>>>> pack.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> On Windows:
 >>>>>
 >>>>> 1. Install a clean Eclipse 3.5
 >>>>> 2. Unzip the Delta pack over it.
 >>>>> 3. Put some plug-ins in the dropins folder
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Result - they don't show up in Eclipse.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Don't install the Delta pack and it's fine.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> I'm sure we had this bug in an earlier version of Eclipse.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Phillipus
 >>>>
 >>>> Bugbased - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=281353
 >>> In fact, things are worse than that - installing the Delta pack means
 >>> that no new plug-ins show up at all, even if they are in the normal
 >>> "plugins" folder!
 >>>
 >> Er, even worser....The Delta pack doesn't show up at all, I think it's
 >> screwed. That kind of means no RCP development in 3.5.  Ho hum.
 >>
 
 Why? Because that's what I've always done. Target is the same as host.
 That's what it's intended for. That's why it's a Delta pack.
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| Re: Galileo - "dropins" folder not working? [message #336588 is a reply to message #336585] | Wed, 24 June 2009 11:39   |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | Originally posted by: phillipus.nowhere.net 
 Tom Schindl wrote:
 > Hi,
 >
 > Why are you installing the delta pack into your eclipse installation?
 > You should create your own target and point PDE to it instead of using
 > the running Eclipse-Instance as the target.
 >
 > Tom
 >
 >
 > Phillipus schrieb:
 >> Phillipus wrote:
 >>> Phillipus wrote:
 >>>> Phillipus wrote:
 >>>>> Ed Merks wrote:
 >>>>>> Phillipus,
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> I'd try running with -clean -debug and looking carefully at what's
 >>>>>> in the Error log.  The -debug flag will produce more detailed
 >>>>>> messages about why something might fail to activate, i.e.,
 >>>>>> unsatisfied range constraints on bundle dependencies...
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> Phillipus wrote:
 >>>>>>> Just got Eclipse 3.5. Put all my plug-ins in the "dropins" folder
 >>>>>>> and they don't show up. No way no how.
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>> Am I missing something?
 >>>>> Ed, I found out what it is. It's an issue with installing the Delta
 >>>>> pack.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> On Windows:
 >>>>>
 >>>>> 1. Install a clean Eclipse 3.5
 >>>>> 2. Unzip the Delta pack over it.
 >>>>> 3. Put some plug-ins in the dropins folder
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Result - they don't show up in Eclipse.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Don't install the Delta pack and it's fine.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> I'm sure we had this bug in an earlier version of Eclipse.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Phillipus
 >>>>
 >>>> Bugbased - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=281353
 >>> In fact, things are worse than that - installing the Delta pack means
 >>> that no new plug-ins show up at all, even if they are in the normal
 >>> "plugins" folder!
 >>>
 >> Er, even worser....The Delta pack doesn't show up at all, I think it's
 >> screwed. That kind of means no RCP development in 3.5.  Ho hum.
 >>
 
 Mind you, doing that fixes the problem. Perhaps in 3.5 the Delta pack is
 not meant to be installed over the running installation.
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| Re: Galileo - "dropins" folder not working? [message #336595 is a reply to message #336593] | Wed, 24 June 2009 13:27  |  | 
| Eclipse User  |  |  |  |  | Originally posted by: phillipus.nowhere.net 
 Andrew Niefer wrote:
 > Phillipus wrote:
 >>>>> In fact, things are worse than that - installing the Delta pack means
 >>>>> that no new plug-ins show up at all, even if they are in the normal
 >>>>> "plugins" folder!
 >>>>>
 >>>> Er, even worser....The Delta pack doesn't show up at all, I think it's
 >>>> screwed. That kind of means no RCP development in 3.5.  Ho hum.
 >>>>
 >>
 >> Mind you, doing that fixes the problem. Perhaps in 3.5 the Delta pack
 >> is not meant to be installed over the running installation.
 >
 > This will likely have to do with problems generating metadata on the
 > org.eclipse.equinox.executable feature.  See bug
 > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=248578
 >
 >
 > The best way to install the delta pack is to extract it to its own
 > directory and then add it to your target platform by editing the Active
 > Target and adding the deltapack/eclipse directory.
 
 Thanks for the info!
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