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Feture Details Table [message #325831] Thu, 28 February 2008 13:13 Go to next message
Manuel Selva is currently offline Manuel SelvaFriend
Messages: 189
Registered: July 2009
Location: Grenoble, France
Senior Member
Hi all,

After looking into the deepest part of the workbench i can't figure out
why my Feature is not displayed in the Help -> About Eclipse -> Faeture
Details table !!!

My feature is correctly installed == all my plugins are here and works
perfectly.

I tried installing the feature by copying features and plugins
respectively in features and plugins directories and i also tried to
install trough Help -> Software Update -> manage Configuration from a
given directory containing my feature and a .eclipseextension file.
Nothing to do.

In both cases after installing the feature i can see it in Help ->
Software Update -> Manage Configuration without any warning but i can't
see it in Help -> About Eclipse -> Faeture Details table ....

Any help is welcome

Thanks in advance

Manu
http://manuelselva.wordpress.com


Re: Feture Details Table [message #325834 is a reply to message #325831] Thu, 28 February 2008 13:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com

Manuel,

Did you run eclipse.exe -clean? Maybe running with -clean -debug would
provide more details if something is indeed going wrong with the startup
processing...


Manuel Selva wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> After looking into the deepest part of the workbench i can't figure
> out why my Feature is not displayed in the Help -> About Eclipse ->
> Faeture Details table !!!
>
> My feature is correctly installed == all my plugins are here and works
> perfectly.
>
> I tried installing the feature by copying features and plugins
> respectively in features and plugins directories and i also tried to
> install trough Help -> Software Update -> manage Configuration from a
> given directory containing my feature and a .eclipseextension file.
> Nothing to do.
> In both cases after installing the feature i can see it in Help ->
> Software Update -> Manage Configuration without any warning but i
> can't see it in Help -> About Eclipse -> Faeture Details table ....
>
> Any help is welcome
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Manu
> http://manuelselva.wordpress.com
>
Re: Feture Details Table [message #325839 is a reply to message #325834] Thu, 28 February 2008 15:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manuel Selva is currently offline Manuel SelvaFriend
Messages: 189
Registered: July 2009
Location: Grenoble, France
Senior Member
Hi Ed,

Thanks for your answer but running eclipse with -clean doesn't solve the
problem.

Debug informations doesn't help more. Nevertheless it starts my Eclipse
with my Feature disabled and i have to enabled it before using it. Is it
normal ?

All is working well with my feature ... but it is not displayed in Feature
detail ...

Manu
http://manuelselva.wordpress.com


Re: Feture Details Table [message #325841 is a reply to message #325839] Thu, 28 February 2008 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com

Manuel,

I've not worked a lot with features. It doesn't sound so normal
though... I have a vi feature but it doesn't show there either, but I
don't know why...


Manuel Selva wrote:
> Hi Ed,
>
> Thanks for your answer but running eclipse with -clean doesn't solve
> the problem.
>
> Debug informations doesn't help more. Nevertheless it starts my
> Eclipse with my Feature disabled and i have to enabled it before using
> it. Is it normal ?
>
> All is working well with my feature ... but it is not displayed in
> Feature detail ...
>
> Manu
> http://manuelselva.wordpress.com
>
Re: Feture Details Table [message #325855 is a reply to message #325841] Fri, 29 February 2008 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manuel Selva is currently offline Manuel SelvaFriend
Messages: 189
Registered: July 2009
Location: Grenoble, France
Senior Member
Ed,

Thanks again for the answer. It seems you have the same behaviour with
your VI feature (VI within Eclipse a wonderful IDE ???? ;o)).

Does any one could tell why some features are not presented in the Feature
Details table ?

Thanks

Manu
http://manuelselva.wordpress.com


Re: Feture Details Table [message #325863 is a reply to message #325855] Fri, 29 February 2008 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com

Manuel,

I see exactly the behavior you describe. I'm not sure what's different
about this feature as opposed to the features that do show in the
dialog. Hopefully someone knowledgeable will shed light on the issue.
One thing I notice is that the ones that show support scan for updates
while the vi feature which doesn't, doesn't support that...
Coincidence? Maybe...


Manuel Selva wrote:
> Ed,
>
> Thanks again for the answer. It seems you have the same behaviour with
> your VI feature (VI within Eclipse a wonderful IDE ???? ;o)).
>
> Does any one could tell why some features are not presented in the
> Feature Details table ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Manu
> http://manuelselva.wordpress.com
>
Re: Feture Details Table [message #325912 is a reply to message #325863] Mon, 03 March 2008 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manuel Selva is currently offline Manuel SelvaFriend
Messages: 189
Registered: July 2009
Location: Grenoble, France
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Any ideas ?

Thanks in advance

Manu
http://manuelselva.wordpress.com


Re: Feture Details Table [message #325917 is a reply to message #325912] Mon, 03 March 2008 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com

Manuel,

Unfortunately I don't have a clue. I'm not sure how best to get
attention from someone who does have a clue. :-(

I'll try to have a chat with Nick, EMF's release engineer, later today
to see if he has any clues, failing a response from someone else to your
inquiry...


Manuel Selva wrote:
> Any ideas ?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Manu
> http://manuelselva.wordpress.com
>
Re: Feture Details Table [message #325919 is a reply to message #325917] Mon, 03 March 2008 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manuel Selva is currently offline Manuel SelvaFriend
Messages: 189
Registered: July 2009
Location: Grenoble, France
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Many thanks for your help.

Manu
http://manuelselva.wordpress.com


Re: Feture Details Table [message #325936 is a reply to message #325863] Mon, 03 March 2008 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: codeslave.ca.ibm.com

The reason that features don't appear in the Help > About dialog is that
that dialog needs a branding plugin in order to provide branding
information (provider, icon, copyright, etc.).

To make the viPlugin appear in my Help > About dialog, I edited the
feature.xml file thus:

--- feature.xml 2008-03-03 10:48:31.000000000 -0500
+++ feature.xml.fixed 2008-03-03 10:48:19.000000000 -0500
@@ -3,7 +3,8 @@
id="viPluginFeature"
label="viPluginFeature"
version="1.14.0"
- provider-name="Michael Bartl">
+ provider-name="Michael Bartl"
+ plugin="ViPluginEclipseLayer">
<install-handler/>

<description>

The other way to make this work appears to be having a branding plugin
for your feature, as platform's source features do (eg., jdt.source)

features/org.eclipse.jdt.source_3.4.0.v20080204-1800-7o7qEFD EFpPqiqYydmCVKgP
plugins/org.eclipse.jdt.source_3.3.0.v20080204-1800.jar

Note that the versions don't match here, but the ids do. Have a look
inside that jar to see what is needed by Eclipse in order to display
feature info.

Should you want to know how to display a different icon than the
standard Eclipse one, look at the features of a project you have
installed that provides a different icon in the Help > About dialog. For
example: anything from the Modeling project, Subclipse, ShellEd (a great
shell script editor, by the by), Mylyn ...

Cheers,

Nick Boldt
http://dev.eclipse.org/blogs/releng && http://divbyzero.com

Ed Merks wrote:
> Manuel,
>
> I see exactly the behavior you describe. I'm not sure what's different
> about this feature as opposed to the features that do show in the
> dialog. Hopefully someone knowledgeable will shed light on the issue.
> One thing I notice is that the ones that show support scan for updates
> while the vi feature which doesn't, doesn't support that...
> Coincidence? Maybe...
>
>
> Manuel Selva wrote:
>> Ed,
>>
>> Thanks again for the answer. It seems you have the same behaviour with
>> your VI feature (VI within Eclipse a wonderful IDE ???? ;o)).
>>
>> Does any one could tell why some features are not presented in the
>> Feature Details table ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Manu
>> http://manuelselva.wordpress.com
>>
Re: Feture Details Table [message #325956 is a reply to message #325936] Tue, 04 March 2008 09:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manuel Selva is currently offline Manuel SelvaFriend
Messages: 189
Registered: July 2009
Location: Grenoble, France
Senior Member
Hi Nick,

First of all thanks for your answer. I am now able to have my feature
displayed in the about dialog !!!! ;o)

I still have questions ....

- Is there anyway to have my feature shown in the about dialog of an
Eclipse instance launched from an other Eclipse ? In fact I succeeded but
only in a runtime environment containing the exported feature.

- You said that an other way to have feature displayed here is to have a
source feature. In fact in plugin.xml editor in the Build tab there is a
source group i never used. Is there any relation with this source group
and the source feature you mentioned ? What's the difference between these
features (exported as two feature, one for the source and one other) and
default features ?

Thanks again

Manu
http://manuelselva.wordpress.com


Re: Feture Details Table [message #325958 is a reply to message #325956] Tue, 04 March 2008 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com

Manuel,

Did you know you can express your gratitude in the form of a donation?
:-P http://www.eclipse.org/donate/

More comments below.


Manuel Selva wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> First of all thanks for your answer. I am now able to have my feature
> displayed in the about dialog !!!! ;o)
>
> I still have questions ....
>
> - Is there anyway to have my feature shown in the about dialog of an
> Eclipse instance launched from an other Eclipse ? In fact I succeeded
> but only in a runtime environment containing the exported feature.
I see on the Plug-ins tab, a choice for "workspace features (simulated
normal startup)" so maybe that's it.
>
> - You said that an other way to have feature displayed here is to have
> a source feature. In fact in plugin.xml editor in the Build tab there
> is a source group i never used. Is there any relation with this source
> group and the source feature you mentioned ? What's the difference
> between these features (exported as two feature, one for the source
> and one other) and default features ?
No, what he was saying was that in the absence of a plugin="..."
attribute, the system will look for <id>_*.jar as the branding plugin.
It seems it must find a jar using one of those two mechanisms otherwise
it decides not to show the feature in the about.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Manu
> http://manuelselva.wordpress.com
>
Re: Feture Details Table [message #325966 is a reply to message #325958] Tue, 04 March 2008 12:30 Go to previous message
Manuel Selva is currently offline Manuel SelvaFriend
Messages: 189
Registered: July 2009
Location: Grenoble, France
Senior Member
Ed,

Yes i know for the donation ;o) !!!


The choice "workspace features (simulated normal startup)" doesn't work
for me, it displays the following error message :

The workspace is not set up properly for this option. Plug-ins must be in
'plugins' directory, and features in 'features' directory.

Concerning the branding plug-in i changed my feature ID to match my core
plug-in ID and added an about.ini and about.properties file in this
plug-in and it works.

Everything is ok ;o) !!!

I 'll start an other thread on source feature ...

Manu


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